[oeccscclhjhn]

Originally Posted by Robustus

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As for driving through the typical gated communities without knowing the code, just idle near the gate for a couple minutes and then drive in behind the first person who pulls up and punches the code. That's what everyone does. Great security, eh?

unless you follow a smart resident who'll stop just inside the gate closing arc to block you. piggy backing is easy to thwart. don't you stop and watch your garage door close all the way before you drive off to work in the morning?

[Robustus]

Originally Posted by f.2

don't you stop and watch your garage door close all the way before you drive off to work in the morning?

I work from home.

[olecapt]

Originally Posted by f.2

unless you follow a smart resident who'll stop just inside the gate closing arc to block you. piggy backing is easy to thwart. don't you stop and watch your garage door close all the way before you drive off to work in the morning?

Doesn't work. You just sit there and wait. Once you are into the arc the gate won't close.

Actually as a practical matter my wife sits in the driver's seat and waives at the drivers leaving and at least half open the inbound gate for her. On a heavy showing day we may go through three or four without codes.

The gates discourage traffic. They keep cruising to a minimum. They do little else. If you use a quality gate and properly armor it you can discourage the kids who are the ones who break the gates.

I doubt very much it has any impact on burglaries which are driven by other parameters.

[oeccscclhjhn]

Originally Posted by olecapt

Doesn't work. You just sit there and wait. Once you are into the arc the gate won't close.

Actually as a practical matter my wife sits in the driver's seat and waives at the drivers leaving and at least half open the inbound gate for her. On a heavy showing day we may go through three or four without codes.

The gates discourage traffic. They keep cruising to a minimum. They do little else. If you use a quality gate and properly armor it you can discourage the kids who are the ones who break the gates.

I doubt very much it has any impact on burglaries which are driven by other parameters.

it certainly won't work without cooperation. yup, it won't work.

[jtjtjtjt]

Does the UPS man have access to most gated communities?

I hear a lot of people are buying things from Amazon and getting shipments from UPS frequently, even daily!

How does that work with the gated communities? Any problem with the UPS man getting in?

Then there is the question of the not so common delivery companies like DHL.

I'm guessing US Postal service gets in no problem.

[LV10101]

Gates do deter property crime, having a guard at the gate and guards patrolling the property also add to that deterrent. Another simple deterrent is to have a alarm sign and a beware of dog sign, even if you don't have an alarm or dog. If you really believe gates, especially guard gated communities don't deter crime look up crime maps of neighborhoods that have gates compared to those that don't have gates. I will tell you right now a perfect example is the Las Vegas Country Club Estates...crime is very high in the surrounding area and very low inside the gates.

[Raiderman]

^ I think she's asking about delivery people, not crime. The 4 year old thread was revived to ask about UPS.

[ScoopLV]

I live in a non-gated community. My mother in law lives in a gated community. We experience the same frequency of smash-the-sliding-door-and-grab burglaries.

In the case of the gated community, the burglars hop the privacy wall first.

In my experience the gates give residents higher HOA fees and a false sense of security. Since they don't eliminate crime, they aren't nearly as effective as people think.

[LV10101]

Scoop, nothing will eliminate crime, deter yes. As others said in this thread most criminals are looking for an easy target, a wall deters them from trying...too much work.

[Buzz123]

Originally Posted by jtjtjtjt

Does the UPS man have access to most gated communities?

I hear a lot of people are buying things from Amazon and getting shipments from UPS frequently, even daily!

How does that work with the gated communities? Any problem with the UPS man getting in?

Then there is the question of the not so common delivery companies like DHL.

I'm guessing US Postal service gets in no problem.

Yes, all the postal type delivery services, including DHL, have access to gated communities, plus police and fire dept. I think they have a device that opens all gates or something, or they just have the code. For other delivery services you can either give them the code (they'll ask for it) or do what we do and tell them to stop at the kiosk, scroll down to our name, and call us on the kiosk phone, and we'll open the gate by pushing a number on the telephone keypad. You'll just have to trust the other services you use - gardeners, pool man, exterminators, etc., with the code.