[dynimagelv]

Originally Posted by m73m95

Yeah, that I can go with

But, other than City Center, what else is there absorbing all the people?


I'm not a neighsayer. I do realize its getting better, but I can't be happy until something does actually get built again.

City Center, Trump and a million and a half phony Condo projects that think they're hotels....

[jfkIII]

Originally Posted by 9162

I remember Vegas back in the early to mid 80's; it was not even remotely similar as it is today. I looked at the Tropicana, where I stayed in '84 and only the building itself looked recognizable, everything around it had transformed. Back then, it was so much more spread out, it was so much classier. You could cross the street back then, now some might consider the city congested, seedy, polluted, and overdone. Downtown didn't have a canopy hanging over it, with a million light shows; a distraction. I don't remember any media indication LV was hurting back then.

Yep...The Future of Las Vegas is in its Past.

[Robustus]

Originally Posted by jfkIII

It's the amount spent/gambled per person that has dropped.

Yes, in my post (that you directly quoted) I noted that visitors aren't spending as much - this is pretty well known by everyone that chimes-in to these discussions. The purpose of my post was to correct the misconception that the number of visitors is significantly off the highs. To re-iterate: it's only 4.8% off the high, yet people keep on implying that it's a tremendous difference from the peak years.

If you want to find and post numbers about average spend per visitor by year for the last 6 or 7 years, I (and probably others) would be interested to see them.

[m73m95]

Originally Posted by dynimagelv

City Center, Trump and a million and a half phony Condo projects that think they're hotels....

People actually go to the Trump?

[dynimagelv]

I went to the Trump for a business presentation.....

FIRST let me say that "The Donald" doesn't know his butt from buttermilk about running a Casino Hotel....never has, never will.....

The Trump here was one of the best run properties I have been in, in a long time......VERY classy, VERY Gnu Yawk in its atmosphere.....

[jfkIII]

Originally Posted by Robustus

Yes, in my post (that you directly quoted) I noted that visitors aren't spending as much - this is pretty well known by everyone that chimes-in to these discussions. The purpose of my post was to correct the misconception that the number of visitors is significantly off the highs. To re-iterate: it's only 4.8% off the high, yet people keep on implying that it's a tremendous difference from the peak years.

If you want to find and post numbers about average spend per visitor by year for the last 6 or 7 years, I (and probably others) would be interested to see them.

The title of the post is: "Is Las Vegas Really Hurting?". Your answer to that was that attendance is near record highs. My question to that is...what good is that if the high attendance is spending less money in LV. One cannot measure if LV is really hurting by attendance numbers. I would thing that revenue generated would paint the clearer picture on whether LV is hurting or not...not attendance.

[macgeek]

Originally Posted by las vegas drunk

There is a big problem with it. Nuclear energy should be illegal everywhere. Look at what destruction it did in Japan. What really pisses me off is we only run coal power plants, and other states want to bring their waste here. Let the other states dispose of their own nuclear waste. If you really want to get the crap scared out of you, read this:

Solar flare could unleash nuclear holocaust across planet Earth, forcing hundreds of nuclear power plants into total meltdowns

You lost me at:

"The upshot of this situation is that suddenly and without warning, the power grid infrastructure across nearly the entire planet could be destroyed. As a bonus, nearly all satellites will be fried, too, leaving GPS inoperable and causing millions of clueless drivers to become forever lost in their own neighborhoods because they never paid attention to the streets and always relied on a GPS voice to tell them, "In fifty feet, turn right."

Communications satellites will be obliterated, too. This, of course, will halt nearly all news propaganda distribution across the planet, causing tens of thousands of people to instantly die out of the sheer fear of suddenly having to think for themselves. As another bonus, nearly all mobile phone service will be disrupted, too, meaning all the teenage text junkies of the world will, for the first time in their lives, be forced to lay down their iPhones and interact with real people in the real world.

Jonathan

[von949]

Originally Posted by jfkIII

The title of the post is: "Is Las Vegas Really Hurting?". Your answer to that was that attendance is near record highs. My question to that is...what good is that if the high attendance is spending less money in LV. One cannot measure if LV is really hurting by attendance numbers. I would thing that revenue generated would paint the clearer picture on whether LV is hurting or not...not attendance.

Attendance will at least help the hotels. These people have to stay somewhere. Also have to consider that even if it does not help Las Vegas directly, the tourists that travel from all over the country to make it to the strip have to pay airfare or have to pump gas to make it.

[Robustus]

Originally Posted by jfkIII

The title of the post is: "Is Las Vegas Really Hurting?". Your answer to that was that attendance is near record highs. My question to that is...what good is that if the high attendance is spending less money in LV. One cannot measure if LV is really hurting by attendance numbers. I would thing that revenue generated would paint the clearer picture on whether LV is hurting or not...not attendance.

You're not a forum newbie. You know that the discussion tends to morph a little, and posters are not always responding directly to the exact set of discussion defined purely by the literal thread title. That's why "quote" exists. I was clearly responding to a specific misconception of the poster whom I quoted, correcting a factual error with actual data. It is indeed relevant to the thread and overall discussion, and I even noted the revenue consideration. Maybe you just didn't read my post carefully.

As to the overall revenue numbers, as I (yet again) said before, I'd love it if you could post hard data on that. I agree that it could prove illuminating, one way or the other.

[Nolan05]

Yo LVD....Marshall Retail Group is hiring Asst Managers, Supervisors and CSAs...just go to the office on Wynn and get an application. They are hiring for most strip casinos(Bally, Venetian, Mandalay and Planet for sure) and if you can pass a drug test(hair), a back ground check and a math test it is a nice job, not well paying but decent bennies after 90 and in the casinos you can expand your contacts and maybe get more offers..just letting you know man...I got in after being here 2 weeks as an Asst Manager and it is pretty decent, not great but I work on the strip and it is never dull....