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"I continue to live in the NW in the RNP. I do not believe we have a crime problem here or a school problem. I doubt I have seen a single cop car roll past here in the last year. And I think that about right. We argue here about the kids on dirt bikes scareing the horses. The neighborhood varies from $400K fixers to $2 million estates. We all get along. May be a couple of hookers or "dancers" in the set....don't show it here.
There is a burglarly on rare occasion. The cul-de-sac on Durango got hit by a random home invasion robbery a couple of years ago. Periodically some itenerant tagger nails a wall. But where is better? An Amish school get hits by a crazed sex fiend murderer. Where safer than that?"
I live in the same area as you do, Olecapt. Although I agree with you, in part, that this area is not as crime-ridden as other parts of the valley, I disagree with your characterization of it. I live on the east side of Durango, near Washburn, and have explained at length about the non-stop theft that has taken place in this area for the past four years that I have been here. I wish we could get a cop to stroll by once in awhile. In fact, when I asked a responding officer why we can't get a patrol car through here once in awhile, his response was that they are too busy to do much patrolling anymore. It's just call to call for most shifts.
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I live in the same area as you do, Olecapt. Although I agree with you, in part, that this area is not as crime-ridden as other parts of the valley, I disagree with your characterization of it. I live on the east side of Durango, near Washburn, and have explained at length about the non-stop theft that has taken place in this area for the past four years that I have been here. I wish we could get a cop to stroll by once in awhile. In fact, when I asked a responding officer why we can't get a patrol car through here once in awhile, his response was that they are too busy to do much patrolling anymore. It's just call to call for most shifts.
Ever time I have come across that problem in this area it has turned out to be local teenagers. Any car sticks out and foreign cars like a sore thumb. These neighborhoods are highly xenophobic.
You nail them. Ain't no other way out. The cops are completely ineffective on such crimes and have always been. And if you don't nail them it continues until the perps grow up and leave.
All patrolling cops do is nail the kids on the dirt bikes...and I have never been convinced that is useful. On the other hand I see no way the cops can ignore an obivious underage driver on a bike.
There are a number of things about Las Vegas that are middle of the road. I observed a while back that crime is to good to be a large issue and too bad to feature.
I think we could make it better. At a cost. I don't think the taxpayer is prepared to pay the cost. That is because it is good enough.
Same on schools. Here I believe we really should pay more money...higher taxes. And we may manage it by hitting business or the casinos. I would vote to pay teachers at the US median. I don't really know if that is too much or not enough...but I am pretty sure we are way low now.
Should we have goals to be the best in the US on schools or crime? I don't think so. First it may well be impractical. The non-english speakers in the school and the impact of the strip on crime may make such goals virtually impossible.
Something more practical? Perhaps. Best in the west? In the best 25% in both categories? Maybe something like that.
Note by the way that I consider the 2006 jump in crime a very serious matter. I have, so far, heard no good explainations, rationales or fixes. I would think this would likely merit a new sheriff in the next election and maybe some changes in the County Commission or City Council if our elected leadership does not rise to the challenge.
I continue to live in the NW in the RNP. I do not believe we have a crime problem here or a school problem. I doubt I have seen a single cop car roll past here in the last year. And I think that about right. We argue here about the kids on dirt bikes scareing the horses. The neighborhood varies from $400K fixers to $2 million estates. We all get along. May be a couple of hookers or "dancers" in the set....don't show it here.
There is a burglarly on rare occasion. The cul-de-sac on Durango got hit by a random home invasion robbery a couple of years ago. Periodically some itenerant tagger nails a wall. But where is better? An Amish school get hits by a crazed sex fiend murderer. Where safer than that?
It ain't perfect folks...but it is perfectly servicable. And there is no "better" place out there.
Your point makes no sense. I live in a different RNP and my point is that it is very expensive but you have to pay the blood money to get away from crime. That is why you have less crime and no renters in your RNP, because its very expensive. I'd love to live in a $400,000 house but the rif raff is present is most neighborhoods. Quite honestly, $400,000 is a lot of money and should get you into a really nice and safe neighborhood, but it just plain does not happen anymore.
I bought my first house here in 1991 for $125,000 and it was as safe as can be and quiet. I moved about 3 years ago because the prices doubled in 1.5 years and all the rif raf moved in. As soon as it hit about $300,000 it got ugly. Cops there all of the time, broken bottles in the street, etc.
To the person who said to go out and have a good time, please re-read my post. We went to Mount Charleston, the canyon walls were spray painted and there was broken glass everywhere. We went to what should have been a great show, the trashy people made it unbearable as in we could not hear the music.
Here is the bottom line, wheh Vegas was an inexpensive place to live without all of these negatives it was a pretty nice live, especially with the economy. I bought a home while putting myself through undergrad. What a great situation. Now, it cost a bundle to get away from the crime and the overcrowding and other aspects are just getting worse. The positive are rapidly going away while negatives are being added.
Your point makes no sense. I live in a different RNP and my point is that it is very expensive but you have to pay the blood money to get away from crime. That is why you have less crime and no renters in your RNP, because its very expensive. I'd love to live in a $400,000 house but the rif raff is present is most neighborhoods. Quite honestly, $400,000 is a lot of money and should get you into a really nice and safe neighborhood, but it just plain does not happen anymore.
I bought my first house here in 1991 for $125,000 and it was as safe as can be and quiet. I moved about 3 years ago because the prices doubled in 1.5 years and all the rif raf moved in. As soon as it hit about $300,000 it got ugly. Cops there all of the time, broken bottles in the street, etc.
To the person who said to go out and have a good time, please re-read my post. We went to Mount Charleston, the canyon walls were spray painted and there was broken glass everywhere. We went to what should have been a great show, the trashy people made it unbearable as in we could not hear the music.
Here is the bottom line, wheh Vegas was an inexpensive place to live without all of these negatives it was a pretty nice live, especially with the economy. I bought a home while putting myself through undergrad. What a great situation. Now, it cost a bundle to get away from the crime and the overcrowding and other aspects are just getting worse. The positive are rapidly going away while negatives are being added.
I know what your are saying, but what is the alternative? Move to another state or city that is cheaper? This is why people from CA come here. 400K is nothing to them. The area I last lived in CA was San Jose. The median price is now at 860K. Affordable and safe dont exist there. 400K and safe is a heck of a good deal with a overpriced cali mentality. I got in pretty low when I bought my home. Its safer, newer, nicer than my neighborhood in CA.. so for me it was a good move. Vegas isn't perfect, but its better for me overall than my previous situation in CA.
Your point makes no sense. I live in a different RNP and my point is that it is very expensive but you have to pay the blood money to get away from crime. That is why you have less crime and no renters in your RNP, because its very expensive. I'd love to live in a $400,000 house but the rif raff is present is most neighborhoods. Quite honestly, $400,000 is a lot of money and should get you into a really nice and safe neighborhood, but it just plain does not happen anymore.
I bought my first house here in 1991 for $125,000 and it was as safe as can be and quiet. I moved about 3 years ago because the prices doubled in 1.5 years and all the rif raf moved in. As soon as it hit about $300,000 it got ugly. Cops there all of the time, broken bottles in the street, etc.
To the person who said to go out and have a good time, please re-read my post. We went to Mount Charleston, the canyon walls were spray painted and there was broken glass everywhere. We went to what should have been a great show, the trashy people made it unbearable as in we could not hear the music.
Here is the bottom line, wheh Vegas was an inexpensive place to live without all of these negatives it was a pretty nice live, especially with the economy. I bought a home while putting myself through undergrad. What a great situation. Now, it cost a bundle to get away from the crime and the overcrowding and other aspects are just getting worse. The positive are rapidly going away while negatives are being added.
I believe you live in Lone Mountain...which is the same RNP I live in. And ACKACKACK - though he might be in the City.
What blood money? Most of us have lived here for some years. And yes we have a few renters...actually we have a likely illegal boarding house. And we have a couple of nice new shiny yuppie McMansions...where they want 900K and can't get it. But no gates.(Except on some individual homes) You can walk most anywhere and holler hello and mostly they holler back.
And you can buy here for $450K. It was likely built in 1978 and needs some work...but what do you want for $450K? But the crime will be about the same as if you buy one of the million plus joints. And if you really want you can go up the block to Mountain Shadows and pick up a nice safe home with no significant crime problem for $325K.
When I walk in the remains of the desert with my dog I often take a bag along. Fill it up with plasitic bags and beer cans. I don't get five lbs worth on a 2 mile walk. Makes it nicer for the next guy. Some wise ass sneaks in an initials a wall. It is generally gone in a day. Most of us have good pressure washers and it does not take much.
Hey show up tommorrow morning 8AM - Lone Mountain west side at the end of Vegas Vista Drive. Gonna take a walk around Lone Mountain and clean it up a bit. Probably be 50 or 100 souls out there. Joins us it makes a nice start to a day. Look for me with a little german spitz...white thing with curled tail and a foxey head.
In case any of you are not familiar with out fair city, Las Vegas is a disguisting combination of desert wasteland and heat that is full of trashy people. Everyone here is financed up to their eyeballs to drive a fancy car and afford plastic surgery. But then again, if you don't live in a $1,000,000 house you live in a scary neighborhood, and even then, once you leave the gates of your neighborhood, you are back in the wasteland of drug addicts and trash. Last night was the last straw. We have to leave. We went hiking a few weeks ago in the one nice place here, Mount Charleston, and someone left beer cans and bottles at the end of the trail and spray painted the canyon walls with graffitti. Sorry to ramble but I have lived here for 17 years and it hurts that I know that I have to leave.
Anyone want to buy a house...
I think you need your head examined. Try this in another state. I hear East L.A is highly recommended. I think you will love it.
I hate to say it and really don't want to feed the local troll on this forum but I have finally hit my limit with this trashy city.
My wife and I went to see Aaron Lewis of Staind perform an accoustic show last night at the House of Blues in Las Vegas (Mandalay Bay). If you don't know who he is, Staind was an alternative rock band that did an MTV unplugged show. The unplugged show was so good that Aaron Lewis now does a solo tour. Just him and an accoustic guitar. I was really excited to go and bought floor seats (about the 12th row).
The sound system was fine, not too loud and you should have been able to hear every note. The House of Blues had opened bars during the show. After he did his first song he asked the crowd if he was interrupting their conversations. He tried to explain that this was supposed to be an intimate setting. Instead of being quiet they responded f--- you and booed. Now, I paid to see him perform but apparently about 1/2 of the people were there to drink and talk and try to gey laid while some guy on the stage with a guitar played.
It was just plain painful. He tried to play with emotion and the talking just didn't stop. Remember, this was a guy with an accoustic guitar. I could barely hear alot of his singing over the talking. He was singing a song about his little girl that was soft and mellow and durring the whole song every drunk trashy Las Vegas skank kept yelling "whoh hoo" over and over, plus the constant talking in the background. Aaron Lewis then commented that the crowd was "testy." You could see that the man enjoyed the emotion and connection of the accoustic show and that it just wasn't happening. He just kept plowing forward painfully. Every once in a while you could hear somneone in the crowd yell "Shut the f--- up to the people who were talking.
My wife and I finally walked out. We just could not hear the music at all. I complained to someone in security and she said "someone is talking on the floor?" This was on the way out where we could not even hear the music at all, just the trashy crowd talking and yelling. My response was "You can't hear the crowd talking?" I spoke to someone at the box office who directed me to the "boss." She explained "man, we got him here and got him to sing, we can do nothing about the crowd. That's all you get" I guess I bothered her, I'm sure that she needed to do something important like another line of coke.
I bought tickets to James Taylor that are also up really close. I was excited to go until yesterday. It is at a different venue at the Mandalay Bay. I really hope that they do not ********** one up too.
In case any of you are not familiar with out fair city, Las Vegas is a disguisting combination of desert wasteland and heat that is full of trashy people. Everyone here is financed up to their eyeballs to drive a fancy car and afford plastic surgery. But then again, if you don't live in a $1,000,000 house you live in a scary neighborhood, and even then, once you leave the gates of your neighborhood, you are back in the wasteland of drug addicts and trash. Last night was the last straw. We have to leave. We went hiking a few weeks ago in the one nice place here, Mount Charleston, and someone left beer cans and bottles at the end of the trail and spray painted the canyon walls with graffitti. Sorry to ramble but I have lived here for 17 years and it hurts that I know that I have to leave.
Anyone want to buy a house...
LV is truly a wonderful town---however the residents and tourists are mean-spirited, ignorant, listless, and dollar driven to the point that makes LV---THEcesspool of the world. Congratulations to you for realizing quality life does not exist in LV. Best of evrything to you and yours.
I believe you live in Lone Mountain...which is the same RNP I live in. And ACKACKACK - though he might be in the City.
What blood money? Most of us have lived here for some years. And yes we have a few renters...actually we have a likely illegal boarding house. And we have a couple of nice new shiny yuppie McMansions...where they want 900K and can't get it. But no gates.(Except on some individual homes) You can walk most anywhere and holler hello and mostly they holler back.
And you can buy here for $450K. It was likely built in 1978 and needs some work...but what do you want for $450K? But the crime will be about the same as if you buy one of the million plus joints. And if you really want you can go up the block to Mountain Shadows and pick up a nice safe home with no significant crime problem for $325K.
When I walk in the remains of the desert with my dog I often take a bag along. Fill it up with plasitic bags and beer cans. I don't get five lbs worth on a 2 mile walk. Makes it nicer for the next guy. Some wise ass sneaks in an initials a wall. It is generally gone in a day. Most of us have good pressure washers and it does not take much.
Hey show up tommorrow morning 8AM - Lone Mountain west side at the end of Vegas Vista Drive. Gonna take a walk around Lone Mountain and clean it up a bit. Probably be 50 or 100 souls out there. Joins us it makes a nice start to a day. Look for me with a little german spitz...white thing with curled tail and a foxey head.
Thank you for the offer, we have three dogs. I would take you up on it but I live in the enterprise RE. Other side of the valley. I don't want to go on about Vegas but think about this. Why do we all love the RE's so much and once you live here you would not want to live anywhere else? Its because they are the opposite of the rest of Vegas.
I think you need your head examined. Try this in another state. I hear East L.A is highly recommended. I think you will love it.
What is your point? I should have my head examined because there are worse places to live? I didn't realize that I was setting my standards too high because California is more expensive and more dangerous. Thanks for setting me straight.
Thank you for the offer, we have three dogs. I would take you up on it but I live in the enterprise RE. Other side of the valley. I don't want to go on about Vegas but think about this. Why do we all love the RE's so much and once you live here you would not want to live anywhere else? Its because they are the opposite of the rest of Vegas.
Too bad...thought you were over this way. The other RE areas suffer badly from fragmentation and location. Only Lone Mountain got there act together in time. The SW moved way to late and got all broken up. Those will likely not hold up. Others like the Scotch 80 and Section 10 are more just upper income residence areas.
The NW RNP is both nice and well surrounded by reasonable neighbors. There really are no bad areas on the border. You can live in the area down to 200K.Only the periphery along 215 actually has any real problems with flippers and foreclosures and renters. There are isolated blocks in North Shores and Desert Shores that are less than ideal but they are limited and beaten up by the HOAs if they get out of line.
The roots out this way were pretty much all cowboy. When we arrived 11 years ago there were 6 calf roping rinks within walking distance. It is still a pretty horsey place but only two of the rinks are left and both are inactive. The cowboys can't afford a million bills for the roping rinks. You can however still buy a 2.5 acre for around 800K. So 4 homes at maybe $550 or $600K could be built. Unfortunately the local custom guys won't go there. The profit is much better on 800K places.
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