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Old 07-27-2012, 07:11 AM
 
Location: In the Silver State of Nevada in Las Vegas NV
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007 you are correct another factor is the jacking up of the airline tickets and baggage fees. This puts a big dent in the USA tourist budget for LV. The airlines are ripping off the consumer in big $$$ amounts. Now is the $64,000 question is the high speed train from Calf. worth it? Calf. is the biggest market closet to LV so you try to milk it for ever thing. The Far East cash cow will not last forever.
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Old 07-28-2012, 11:19 PM
 
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007 you are correct another factor is the jacking up of the airline tickets and baggage fees. This puts a big dent in the USA tourist budget for LV. The airlines are ripping off the consumer in big $$$ amounts. Now is the $64,000 question is the high speed train from Calf. worth it? Calf. is the biggest market closet to LV so you try to milk it for ever thing. The Far East cash cow will not last forever.
How are the airlines ripping people off when they barely make money as an industry?
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Old 07-30-2012, 09:50 PM
 
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One thing this article doesn't address is that the tourists are coming in on the cheap. You will see tourists bringing coolers with their own snacks and booze with them to places like the Bellagio or the Venetian. You never saw that in casino properties of that caliber before only in hotels like super 8's. Also if you were to ask most tourist regarding how much they paid for their rooms most of them would tell you that they found deals on line or the casino reached out to them via internet offering great nightly prices. And/or whole pkgs that include shows and dining at amazing prices.
I have worked in a lot of high end properties and MANY people bring in their own booze and snacks. As a general rule, I do not.

Having said that, it is pretty disappointing when you go to Strip hotels (and some off-Strip) and you cannot get a small reasonable meal ($10-15). I am NOT opposed to an occasional fine dining experience but not every meal.
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Old 07-30-2012, 09:51 PM
 
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How are the airlines ripping people off when they barely make money as an industry?

The airline industry are recording excellent profits this year.
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Old 07-30-2012, 10:49 PM
 
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The airline industry are recording excellent profits this year.
First profitable run in a long while and all it takes is a little spike in oil prices and poof its gone. Should they never make money?
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Old 07-31-2012, 05:58 AM
 
Location: In the Silver State of Nevada in Las Vegas NV
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The big question is whats next LV has struggled to climb back up the hill to get tourist to come back. I guess one other item is Internet Gambling being legalized through the country. It sure will raise profits of the corporate casinos but will it hurt LV in the long run. Please keep in mind the Government will also make money from it. Las Vegas is still the entertainment capitol of the USA (Adult Disneyland) so the next big step is ho is this business going to be cultured and marketed which I believe will be the key to all tourist wanting to visit. The next five years ought to be interesting.
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Old 08-02-2012, 05:25 PM
 
Location: In the Silver State of Nevada in Las Vegas NV
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According to the U.S. Bureau of Transportation Statistics, annual U.S. baggage fees and ticket cancellation and change fees generate roughly $3.4 billion and $2.4 billion, respectively, for U.S. airlines. And the airlines continue to charge travelers more fees.
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Old 08-03-2012, 10:09 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Well there are more and more casinos all across the country now. Here in Maryland, the third casino in the state opened this summer and there are two more planned. A sixth casino is now being proposed as well as the legalization of table games and lowered tax rates for casino operators. I think the gambling market is so much and with every new casino that opens, everyone's existing cut decreases.

That article should do some searches on "Maryland Live" "Perryville casino" or "Ocean downs casino".....maybe this can make up for the less searches for Atlantic City. If people just want to gamble, they can do it close to home. I now live 25 minutes from the nearest casino which is one of the largest in the country. I was there on a Sunday night and its 7 story parking garage was completely filled with cars and there were massive crowds inside. Many people are actually more working class and blue collar that you see at Maryland's casinos, including many ghetto folks and rural good ol boys from the small towns. In two years I'll probably be 15 minutes from the nearest casino. There are large casinos in downtown St. Louis and Detroit, and riverboat gambling in New Orleans and Kansas City not to mention the resort of Biloxi. Florida has gambling cruises off Miami.

Las Vegas has actually been very successful in maintaining its tourist industry in light of all this. Vegas is cool for the landmarks and feel for it, and I actually think its a shame many of the hotels are trying to do generic upscale and toning down the themes. They're getting rid of a lot of the Egyptian stuff at Luxor and took away the theme park at MGM Grand. Its the glitter and kitsch that made Vegas stand out if I want a upscale hotel or a regular casino that can be found anywhere.

I don't know of anyone here in Maryland who decided to not go to Vegas or go to Vegas less because of the casinos here. But since the casinos opened here, particularly the one just outside Baltimore (downtown Bmore will get its own Caesars casino in 2-3 years and MGM is interested in a property in MD across from DC) but quite a few people have stopped going to Atlantic City, and the Delaware and West Virginia casinos have lost a LOT of business.
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Old 08-04-2012, 05:03 AM
 
Location: In the Silver State of Nevada in Las Vegas NV
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Here is a perceptive view or comparison you have the county fair then the state fair many rides shows and etc. State fairs are located in one place each year and many people travel to them. The fairs offer many things for kids to do and enjoy. It does cost $$$$ to attend them. Now the ultimate vacation trip year around for family fun and experience is Disneyland or Disneyworld. That means most of us get on a plane and spend a week or more at these sites. It is the one stop vacation of a life time. Usually after folks go there they want to go back and the county fair and state fair are ok but nothing like Disney.
Flip this to the adult only vacation. You have Indian casino's, State built casinos usually around horse tracks and most people drive to them. The ultimate adult vacation is Las Vegas. Again from the folks I have talked to over the years LV is the top and the rest are ok but not Vegas. These other places can not compete for $$ for rooms or entertainment. The food $$ no other place even comes close. Most of all the customer satisfaction and service is above the other areas. You have 4 and 1/2 miles of fun to explore in LV or really 9 miles up one side of the strip and down the other side. The weather is usually great and the entertainment and food places are ever changing. I hear the same comments from folks who go to Vegas then come back to their other Mac Casinos nothing beats Vegas. As I stated before the most challenging problem for LV is transportation cost to get there. Same for the Disney experience and yes they have a huge % of foreign visitors. This will be the number one thing (transportation) that will determine how far back LV will rebound in the future.
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Old 08-04-2012, 10:49 AM
 
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Whether it a "ripoff" or not, rising airfare are a major problem for the Vegas tourist business. I used to come out from NYC. It's now been a couple of years since I've been out. This is mainly because of the airfares. I finally cracked, and will be out there next week, but only because I found a less than average airfare.

I remember being able to fly out there for $250-350. Now it's $500++. It makes it hard to justify the trip.

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