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Old 04-18-2014, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Is there some historical event that took place that gave NLV such a bad rep that it sticks around to this day?
I moved to LV in '98 and NLV seemed fine in the newer areas ( I've never been in the older parts)
Some of the newer developments are very nice. Its not like I would know I was leaving Vegas and entering North Las Vegas if I didn't know the address was NLV.

I just find it difficult to believe that NLV's bad areas are remarkably worse than those in Vegas.


So why is NLV treated like the stepchild of the Valley?

Really curious to know where this reputation comes from and why it sticks to this day even though much of the city seems no different from the rest of the Valley.
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Old 04-18-2014, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Henderson, NV
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I was curious about that as well. Obviously, there are some rough areas, but there are rough areas in pretty much any city. I found this article from 2012 that seems to blame the mishandling of the city by its leaders.

City on the brink: The rise and ongoing fall of North Las Vegas - Las Vegas Sun News
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Old 04-18-2014, 10:49 AM
 
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Take a drive down to the Lake Mead and Pecos area sometime. You'll see.

NLV's bad areas are not necessarily worse than LV's, but since NLV was largely a lower income area until fairly recently, there were no nice, master-planned, type communities. I believe Eldorado was the first master-plan in NLV.

So the bad areas are no worse, but for many years, there were no "good" areas.
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Old 04-18-2014, 11:31 AM
 
Location: In the Silver State of Nevada in Las Vegas NV
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Here is my two Cents many people who have lived here for some time call areas in N.Las Vegas ghettos. Too bad they never been to a real ghetto which are in many large cities especially on the East coast. They have never been to the poor rural areas in the East coast states to see more poverty and poor housing. The whole concept out here is if the neighborhood is not pristine or HOA controlled than it is a crime area and run down. I live on the East side of LV off of Desert Inn and people refer to this area as run down and crime ridden and older housing. I believe NLV gets the same wrap. Go to any urban area and the areas here older housing is available you will see more low income housing. People do not build new housing with the thought of low income people moving in. With low income housing comes the problems of low income people. There will always be a area of any urban city which has this until change comes to the area and then they migrate to another lo income area in the city. So before folks out here put the label Ghetto on areas they should be thankful they really are not the true Ghettos. There are many nice area's in NLV and on the east side and crime happens everywhere. I would be more concern about what next drunk driver is going to hit me on the roads here that being murdered in my home or neighborhood.
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Old 04-20-2014, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Paradise
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Take a drive down to the Lake Mead and Pecos area sometime. You'll see.

NLV's bad areas are not necessarily worse than LV's, but since NLV was largely a lower income area until fairly recently, there were no nice, master-planned, type communities. I believe Eldorado was the first master-plan in NLV.

So the bad areas are no worse, but for many years, there were no "good" areas.
^This.

When I first moved to LV, there were no good parts. Over the years, though, that's changed. Honestly, the worse parts of NLV are no worse than the worse parts of LV. I find the police officers much nicer and more responsive.
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Old 04-20-2014, 10:05 AM
 
Location: North Las Vegas NV
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I also believe it is the perception/ignorance that when people drive past downtown Las Vegas they are in North Las Vegas. Most of what you see from N. Las Vegas Blvd is not in the City of North Las Vegas all the way to Nellis AFB except for a small area around city hall. 90% of North Las Vegas is west of the I-15.
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Old 04-20-2014, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Farrr Northwest Las Vegas
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I also believe it is the perception/ignorance that when people drive past downtown Las Vegas they are in North Las Vegas. Most of what you see from N. Las Vegas Blvd is not in the City of North Las Vegas all the way to Nellis AFB except for a small area around city hall. 90% of North Las Vegas is west of the I-15.
+1

It doesn't help that some of the bad areas of the city of Las Vegas happen to border North Las Vegas.
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Old 04-20-2014, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Vegas
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A search of the net shows little more than that North Las Vegas was incorporated in 1946. No reason why.

There is one sure way to know when you are in NVL - all the street signs are blue and white.

This also shows that the west part of Vegas was once the ghetto, an area segregated. Did you know that until the 50's, black performers were not allowed to stay in the hotel/casinos. They had to enter and depart through the back and stayed in boarding houses west of the railroad tracks and north of Bonanza.
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Old 04-20-2014, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Henderson, NV
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A search of the net shows little more than that North Las Vegas was incorporated in 1946. No reason why.

There is one sure way to know when you are in NVL - all the street signs are blue and white.

This also shows that the west part of Vegas was once the ghetto, an area segregated. Did you know that until the 50's, black performers were not allowed to stay in the hotel/casinos. They had to enter and depart through the back and stayed in boarding houses west of the railroad tracks and north of Bonanza.
I learned this last night at the Broadway Rat Pack show. Sammy Davis Jr. was the first black performer to enter through the front doors of the Sands.
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Old 04-20-2014, 12:14 PM
 
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I learned this last night at the Broadway Rat Pack show. Sammy Davis Jr. was the first black performer to enter through the front doors of the Sands.
Yes. Las Vegas has been known as the Mississippi of the west for a long time. Black people were required to live in "West Las Vegas" and were specifically banned from North Las Vegas for some time (NLV was founded by notorious racist Tom Williams)

I found out via some links that were posted here a couple of years ago, that NLV actually pre-dated LV, but it was a pissing contest that NLV's founder lost big-time. Wish I still had the link, and DynimagLV doesn't post here anymore. I think it was he who posted it.
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