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Old 08-19-2014, 09:43 AM
 
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Well guess we are all DOOMED! Come on you really think the powers that be wouldn't impose a fee structure on water use to ration it ? Never underestimate the power of government and governmental agencies to get in the way of what seemed like a pretty clear property right in the past.
Hardly...I don't think LV is in much of a water problem.

The entire Colorado Compact is, of course, the State and Federal government undoing the western water law in the case of the Colorado. And it took 50 years to settle. Likely a revisit will take as long or longer. The issue is the right of the states not the individual water rights holders. And I don't think CA is ever going to give up their rights to Colorado River Water without huge litigation.

And there is lots of room for more problems on the Colorado. There are other rights to that water which have never been settled. We will still be fighting over that water when my grandchildren pass on.
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Old 08-19-2014, 09:46 AM
 
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In an emergency situation, no. Congress would put together a redistribution scheme, working with the bureau of reclamation, pass it, and be done. The biggest issue would be working through the political problems.

This is where Harry Reid could be very helpful to NV, if he decides he wants to be. That doesn't seem a given.

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Hardly...I don't think LV is in much of a water problem.

The entire Colorado Compact is, of course, the State and Federal government undoing the western water law in the case of the Colorado. And it took 50 years to settle. Likely a revisit will take as long or longer. The issue is the right of the states not the individual water rights holders. And I don't think CA is ever going to give up their rights to Colorado River Water without huge litigation.

And there is lots of room for more problems on the Colorado. There are other rights to that water which have never been settled. We will still be fighting over that water when my grandchildren pass on.
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Old 08-19-2014, 10:32 AM
 
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In an emergency situation, no. Congress would put together a redistribution scheme, working with the bureau of reclamation, pass it, and be done. The biggest issue would be working through the political problems.

This is where Harry Reid could be very helpful to NV, if he decides he wants to be. That doesn't seem a given.
Does not work that way. Reid has no real control over Congress other than an ability to block things.

The last time AZ litigated the arrangement for 40 years. CA would do the same or worse. Note this sort of litigation has direct access to the USSC
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Old 08-19-2014, 02:15 PM
 
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You can litigate the current law, and the states are bound to it, but the Congress could replace it unilaterally if they want to. I dug into this in one of the few discussions we've about this, and they can do it.

What Reid could do is use his control of procedures in the Senate to horse trade with other Senators, and even with the House, to put together a new package. I'm sure there are other Colorado River states that would like to carve up a chunk of CA's allocation. Of course Cali would fight like hell about this. But their main strength would be in the House, and the Republicans control that. He could cut a deal with them to circumvent the CA house delegation, which is mostly Democrat.

Of course this is vastly wishful thinking (for NV).
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:44 PM
 
Location: North Las Vegas
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This article address's what is being done to keep water flowing into the Vegas valley and Nevada in general.

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Danger of drying out again sparks water project Posted 2:00 a.m
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:53 PM
 
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This article address's what is being done to keep water flowing into the Vegas valley and Nevada in general.

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Danger of drying out again sparks water project Posted 2:00 a.m
Link >> Danger of drying out again sparks water project - Las Vegas Sun News
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Old 03-30-2015, 03:01 PM
 
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Why the water problem will be worse this year...

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Old 03-31-2015, 01:45 AM
 
Location: Salt Lake City/Las Vegas
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One of the interesting points of the current compact agreement is that it covers the major contributories that feed Lake Powell (thus, it follows, Lake Mead). Keep in mind the major contributories to those two huge reservoirs are the result of the confluence of many minor contributories. And, the states controlling those minor contributories are already holding back water to keep their local reservoirs viable. This is a double whammy on water flowing into lakes Powell and Mead. Simply put, as snowpack in originating states falls, those states don't allow as much water to flow out of their jurisdictions.

For example, Utah is running about 50% of normal (or less) snowpack this year. Does that mean the flow into Powell (read: Mead) will be 50% of normal? Nope. It'll actually be less because Utah does not have to allow all of the Spring melt to go downstream. All things being equal, Utah will take care of itself first and Powell (hence, Mead) second. It is what it is.

Is Lake Mead O.K. - yes, for approximately another two years at current rates. After that... eh....

The good news is we only need three subsequent years of "normal" snowpack in watersheds that supply Lake Powell (and Lake Mead) to regain what is considered full capacity. It could happen. For all of us, I hope it does.

Bill
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Old 06-10-2015, 10:19 PM
 
Location: las vegas - albuquerque
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Las Vegas and Phoenix are fine for now. If anyone is interested here is a link from a writer and faculty member of UNM on water issues in the west. Lots of really good info on the topic.

1,075: What a Lake Mead “shortage” would mean in practice | jfleck at inkstain

As Lake Mead drops, who is really vulnerable? | jfleck at inkstain

A little good news from May!
http://www.inkstain.net/fleck/2015/0...month-started/
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Old 06-11-2015, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Kissimmee
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El Nino continues to build

"It is unusual to have such a broad extent of warmth across the tropical Pacific; this has not been seen since the El Niño event of 1997-98."

El Wimpo Transforms Into an El Niño That's Showing Increasing Signs of Becoming a Humdinger - ImaGeo
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