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Old 11-18-2006, 10:29 PM
 
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Hey guys, Im moving to Vegas in a month with 3 of my buddies. We are all 23 year old white guys. I've read a whole bunch of threads, and they basically come down to "Dont move here with a Family!". Well, im not moving out there with a family, just the 4 of us and a big dog. Now ive lived in Brooklyn, Jersey, L.A., and San Diego. Between, Brooklyn, Newark, Trenton, Camden, and East L.A. Ive seen some bad places, so Im not really worried about some punk High School Gang Members.......However, I am scared about the spiders, snakes, scopions. Not for myself, but for my Dog. Are snakes and such a serious problem for animals? Also, if there is anyone that has a similar situation to mine, any information would be fantastic. Thanks a lot guys.

Eric
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Old 11-19-2006, 07:10 AM
 
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Eric-

I lived in Vegas for 6 years, and NEVER saw a snake or scorpion. Even when our subdivision was at the edge of development, where you'd think animals were being driven from their natural habitats, there was no problem.

We did see a few brown recluse spiders (2-3 over the 6 years), but they never posed a problem either. We had a large dog as well, and he never got bitten by anything.

Bob
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Old 11-19-2006, 10:04 AM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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My part of town has larger homes on larger lots. There is a dog in virtually every yard. I have never heard of a dog being bitten by anything. My dog and I have walked for thousands of hours in the open desert and have never encountered anything but ground squirrels, rabbits and other dogs.

A feral cat - (a true Vegan only here for the comps) has lived on our back patio for over 10 years now. Appears quite healthy.

You can occassionally find a black widow so don't stick your hands in dark damp places. Dogs however are smarter than humans and don't do that.
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Old 11-19-2006, 11:08 AM
 
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I lived in Vegas for over 9 years. Never saw a snake and only saw a scorpion once while hiking at Red Rock. There are not spiders and stuff everywhere.

As a young single guy Vegas will be fun for you, that's who the city is built for. When you are ready to get married, settle down and raise kids then it's time ot move to a more family friendly city. Live it up and have fun while you can!
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Old 11-19-2006, 09:33 PM
 
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Thanks for the info guys. I really appreciate it
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Old 11-21-2006, 12:45 PM
 
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Oh boy... this misinformation is killin me!

YES, there are over 30 species of scorpions in Nevada. THE REASON NOONE SEES THEM IS BECAUSE THEYRE VERY SECRETIVE AND ARE NOCTURNAL. You want a shocking revelation? Take a portable blacklight out in your yard and around your house. Scorpions flouresce under blacklight and glow a bright green when exposed. They hide under rocks, garbage and the sort. I had a friend in Vegas tell me hes never seen a scorpion in his house. I busted out my blacklight and was able to find 4 adult Vaejovis species and 3 babies as well in one hour. NV is also home to the largest scorpion in North America--- Hadrurus spadix. No scorpions in NV are considered lethal, but their sting will make you wish you were dead sometimes.

As for brown recluses in Nevada? Thats a little hard seeing that their range ends in eastern Texas. Every brown spider on earth seems to be a "brown recluse" (Loxoceles reclusa) to most westerners, who are unaware that they dont even inhabit arid areas, theyd dessicate. The like humidity, therefore the SW is out of the question.

However, a species of black widow call NV home (Latrodectus hesperus--western widow) and are very prevalent in the Vegas area. They breed like crazy and if you dont have them now, you will. Mark my words.

Snakes? NV is home to MANY species of rattlesnakes (Crotalids), many of which have to be removed from yards all the time. I wont get into listing them here, but a quick search will show.
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Old 11-21-2006, 12:51 PM
 
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Steve-o may be right that there is the possibility for all those bugs and such. But honestly I can say that for my over 9 years of living there we never had run-ins with nasty spiders or snakes. Most people have pest control spray around their house monthly and I don't know of anyone that had a problem with spiders or snakes.
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Old 11-21-2006, 01:32 PM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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Oh boy... this misinformation is killin me!

YES, there are over 30 species of scorpions in Nevada. THE REASON NOONE SEES THEM IS BECAUSE THEYRE VERY SECRETIVE AND ARE NOCTURNAL. You want a shocking revelation? Take a portable blacklight out in your yard and around your house. Scorpions flouresce under blacklight and glow a bright green when exposed. They hide under rocks, garbage and the sort. I had a friend in Vegas tell me hes never seen a scorpion in his house. I busted out my blacklight and was able to find 4 adult Vaejovis species and 3 babies as well in one hour. NV is also home to the largest scorpion in North America--- Hadrurus spadix. No scorpions in NV are considered lethal, but their sting will make you wish you were dead sometimes.

As for brown recluses in Nevada? Thats a little hard seeing that their range ends in eastern Texas. Every brown spider on earth seems to be a "brown recluse" (Loxoceles reclusa) to most westerners, who are unaware that they dont even inhabit arid areas, theyd dessicate. The like humidity, therefore the SW is out of the question.

However, a species of black widow call NV home (Latrodectus hesperus--western widow) and are very prevalent in the Vegas area. They breed like crazy and if you dont have them now, you will. Mark my words.

Snakes? NV is home to MANY species of rattlesnakes (Crotalids), many of which have to be removed from yards all the time. I wont get into listing them here, but a quick search will show.
In many, many hours in the open mojave I have yet to come on a snake. Now, as a kid I use to catch them regularly and I am sure I could find them if I tried by the simple strategem of looking where snakes hangout. There are places in town up against the mountains where a rattler is killed in a back yard ever once in a while. But down on the flats it is a a very rare event.

We had a mountain lion stroll through the neighborhood a few years ago...old dude on his last legs. They basically picked him up like a stray and had to euthanize him.

Agree no brown recluses. There are recluses and they do bite but they are not of the rumored potency of the brown. May hurt a little. There are black widows. Likely in any damp out of the way place. I always have one living in a particular corner of my swimming pool.

Scorpions are around. I think they tend to cluster to particular spots. I have done the black light bit a couple of years ago in my reasonably large yard without any hits. I have however found them in vacant homes in a particular neighborhood. They get trapped in sinks and bathtubs.

Again though I am unaware of any significant interactions between these creatures and pets. My Maine Coon would probably enjoy hunting spiders or Scorpions so it is just as well.
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Old 11-21-2006, 02:37 PM
 
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I would be much more concerned about gangs or general traffic. I've lived in desert southwest cities most of my life with pets and have never had a problem.
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Old 11-21-2006, 03:06 PM
 
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Well, weve got our fair share of gangs out here in jeresy. Actually on the list of the worst cities in america jersey has 2 in the top 7. Trenton and Camden. Newark is getting better, its now at 15 haha. I dont think traffic could get much worse then rush hour on the 405, or rush hour on the Belt Parkway. I dont know how well im gonna do without humidity. When I lived in San Diego i used to get nose bleeds from lack of humidity. But theres no turnin back now....i dont know, for some reason im not really scared of snakes. But spiders creep the **** outta me. Glad to know there arent any brown recluse....the pics of peoples bites are horrible...
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