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Old 02-26-2016, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Purgatory
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Originally Posted by ajams22 View Post
That's what I don't understand about people who are so vehemently against Sanders because of the democratic socialist label.

All politicians want our money...I'd rather my tax money go towards education, infrastructure, and things to help OURSELVES (the taxpayers) than more money being thrown at foreign wars.

Call me crazy

Not crazy.

Way to rational.

And spot on.

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Old 02-26-2016, 09:21 AM
 
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Hillary Clinton and the State Department have been cleared of any wrongdoing by the committees investigating the Benghazi attack. RIP to those 4 people that were killed.
 
Old 02-26-2016, 09:30 AM
 
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Not crazy.

Way to rational.

And spot on.

.
We already have Pell Grant to help DESERVING students from low income families get free education. I have no problem with money going into infrastructure and medicare/medicaid. As far as foreign affairs, sadly both parties and all politicians are involved in the decision making, current situation and hopefully factual and true information dictate what must be done by the United States when it comes to foreign policy.


Unfortunately the lies and corruption get in the way when talking about foreign policy, great examples are the wars taking place in Iraq and Afghanistan which the current administration inherited from the lousy Texan family who were in charge not long ago.
 
Old 02-26-2016, 09:31 AM
 
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Because I like living on the extreme edges...

I went out to caucus for Bernie. I've never lived in a caucus state so it was a new process for me. I had to change my registration (I was registered Independent) and recently had a name change but was told "No problem. You can do it on site!". I was not once asked for an ID, voter registration... nothing. I filled out a form that asked for driver's license number or an SSN, but was shocked that no one asked for an ID. No one checked my form either. I could have written anything down. That seemed suspicious to me. My precinct was 40-32 in favor of Bernie. The precinct chair had no idea what they were doing. Evidently they were a substitute/alternate. It was like listening to someone read Ikea furniture instructions. No undecideds in our precinct, so I guess that made things easier. In spite of that, it took what seemed like forever due to the lack of preparedness. I was pretty underwhelmed with the disorganization and the whole caucus process.

My husband voted in the Republican caucus yesterday. His process sounded much better. I went with him to the Trump rally at TI last night and was talking to people about their caucus (however, a majority of the crowd at TI was out of towners who happily stumbled on to the rally). The locals I spoke to seemed to prefer Nevada go to a straight voting primary.

Yes, you read that right... a Bernie voter and a Trump voter live happily in the same house. He made me Bernie snacks for my caucus and I went with him to the Trump rally. No one is unfriending each other, divorcing each other, mad at each other, or arguing. LOL
That is very progressive of both of you. Idk if I'm evolved enough to be married to someone who has such fundamentally different goals and values- one to protect the upper hedge fund manager class and the other fighting for equality for all and restoring Eisenhower tax brackets.

I'm sure your hubby has compassion but many Trump supporters dont. Lack of compassion is a deal breaker in any of my relationships.
 
Old 02-26-2016, 09:43 AM
 
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We already have Pell Grant to help DESERVING students from low income family get free education. I have no problem with money going into infrastructure and medicare/medicaid. As far as foreign affairs, sadly both parties and all politicians are involved in the decision making, current situation and hopefully factual and true information dictate what must be done by the United States when it comes to foreign policy.


Unfortunately the lies and corruption get in the way when talking about foreign policy, great examples are the wars taking place in Iraq and Afghanistan which the current administration inherited from the lousy Texan family who were in charge not long ago.

I got a Pell Grant and, although I had excellent grades, the only "deserving" part of getting one was my fam being poor. In state, state school tuition was about 4k per year at the time. My Pell Grant amount? 100 bucks. (?!) Certainly not even close to the grossly innacurate "anti-poor" memes out thete

Pell grants are highly overhyped and misunderstood.

My prediction is that if public college is free, it will become much more competitive because there will be more applicants.

I think this is an excellent thing for usa future as a whole. The new competitive nature should create leaders who know much more about foreign relations that current generations.
 
Old 02-26-2016, 02:45 PM
EA
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Here is Elizabeth Warren talking about how Hillary rallied support for a bill, then accepted money, and turned right around and voted it down. Something Hillary does a lot. Taking money and changing her position as a result. She is, without a doubt, the most corrupt politician in the country, if not world.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12mJ-U76nfg
 
Old 02-26-2016, 07:30 PM
 
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The fact that people support *Enter any politician* at all is proof we're an incredibly stupid country that completely lacks the ability to critically think and analyze. The vile things that woman has done to this country's citizens are beyond words.
I fixed that for you in bold. It's a sorry country now that most people know the Kardashians better than who's on the Supreme court or other significate office. No Judge Judy isn't on the SCOTUS.

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Clinton in the world stage looks like a tough don't mess with me person while Sanders, at least the way I see it looks like a senile senior citizen even though he's not senile.

Perception is everything especially in the world stage, I would rather have Hillary Clinton represent the United States of America rather than Bernie Sanders and with Hillary's past experience dealing with world leaders as Secretary of State, I have no doubt she will represent the United States of America well as the President.

As far as the candidates on the other side, the clown is very popular and I definitely do not want that person representing the United States.
It's sad that perception is everything and not the Truth. Hillary may have the most miles traveled as Sec of State but I do not see what she really did in that time. She's traveled but didnt get China to budge on much. I doubt Putin the Dictator of Russia will see her as a threat or someone to respect. And internationally, that's the only 2 that matter. Clinton to me is not trustworthy and she's got nothing to show for her experience.

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Isn't it interesting how different people can see the same thing, yet see two completely different things? You think Hillary looks "tough", and what I see is a yapping chihuahua. And her past performance does nothing to show her as strong. Think benghazi, letting 4 people be murdered, not allowing the Marines to do their job. That does not indicate "strength" to me, or any world despot. Her experience as SoS was not exactly the things you want written about you in the history books. But, I'm sure her bank account increased as a result of it! She also has a long, shady history that speaks more "thug" than tough world leader. She's not exactly a spring chicken either..an old, white, privileged woman.

I will give her credit..at least as long as it's filling her pocketbook, she doesn't openly hate America like the current office holder. But again, that's two different people seeing the same thing, but seeing it differently..

As far as the "clown" as you call him. Yes, the billionaire, playing the world stage. Not sure of him, but no one can call him "weak". After all, he's pretty good at taking on the stupid "pc" brought on by those who have no understanding of human nature. He's also pretty good at directly taking on the issues that are killing this country: illegal immigration. I'm not sure if he's really who he says he is, or if he will be able to accomplish anything with both the R's and the D's working against him, but he doesn't need his pocket book filled, and I believe he too loves America. If it comes down to him or the one who allowed 4 of our people to be murdered, and committed crimes with the highest level classified information, I'll take the clown over the chihuahua any day...
He's taking up immigration but he's not providing any real solution and asking Mexico to pay for the bill is ridiculous. Also, Trump's wall after he gets mexico to build it 25 feet high and 10 feet down, will be moot b/c el chapo's men have built tunnels under the border faster and better than the wall can prevent. He's also very good at pumping himself up without backing it up. He's the best this and the greatest that but he too is also very shady. He too will sell his name for $ while screwing over Americans. Google up Trump condo in mexico that went bankrupt and took the money from retired people. He sold his naming rights and most of the fault lies with developer but still he's willing to make a profit over doing right.


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Hillary Clinton and the State Department have been cleared of any wrongdoing by the committees investigating the Benghazi attack. RIP to those 4 people that were killed.
Cleared of wrong doing is different from having done right. Michael Brown from FEMA during Katrina might also have been cleared of any wrongdoing but doesn't mean he knew what he was doing and did anything right.

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Originally Posted by EA View Post
Here is Elizabeth Warren talking about how Hillary rallied support for a bill, then accepted money, and turned right around and voted it down. Something Hillary does a lot. Taking money and changing her position as a result. She is, without a doubt, the most corrupt politician in the country, if not world.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12mJ-U76nfg
Now I wish Elizabeth Warren would have run for Prez over Sanders and Clinton. Shoot at this point, Biden sounds good after all the cr-ap Hillary has done and failed to do. I bet Bloomberg will run as independent. On the R side it's Rubio who will do the least harm but he's the one with least influence and experience.

OH how far this country has fallen, From G Washington who was noble enough to not run for 3rd term or become a dictator that people would have allowed him to do .. to picking the candidate least likely to fugg up the country. I truly hope the US doesn't become the greatest power of the 20th century and a declining country in the 21st.
 
Old 02-28-2016, 12:00 AM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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On the R side it's Rubio who will do the least harm but he's the one with least influence and experience.
Seriously, the best of the worst again, "least harm" in your view, is the answer? "Influence" and "Experience"? You trust any of these career clowns? In my view they are the reason our country is where it is now. Well, actually the majority of voters are to blame because they vote the "best of the worst", "Influence", and "Experience" or lack thereof/any where in between clowns in year after year.

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I truly hope the US doesn't become the greatest power of the 20th century and a declining country in the 21st.
Too late.

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Old 02-28-2016, 01:19 AM
 
Location: Aliante
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Bernie Sanders supporters marched in 45 cities across the US on Saturday and some report as many as 70 cities. He's definitely stoking those embers of the Occupy Movement. LINK

Here's the video from his campaign page. Let's Talk About ISIS
 
Old 03-02-2016, 02:01 AM
 
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Sanders need to give up and rally behind Hillary Clinton, perhaps work with Clinton and who knows he may become her running mate.

Clinton pretty much took Super Tuesday. Sanders need to let go of his ego and back Hillary Clinton.
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