[BBMW]

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I'm a little surprised the front desk people even have the authority to do that.

[daveyjones978]

Originally Posted by Merry Lee Gather

I'm telling you right now. If they want to attract Millennials they've got to get the rights or make a play to the Harry Potter and the new Fantastic Beasts franchise. Convert Excalibur into Hogwarts and across from it convert NYNY into the Fantastic Beasts NY or play on that some how. They've got to make some kind of deal with them to do this because there's still a lot of money to be had in that like other beloved franchises such as Star Wars, ect.

I do believe they tried to get millennials to gamble by converting to electronic games mostly since they love their video games. They're not addicted to gambling but electronic video games and virtual reality or augmented reality they are addicted to in droves.

A Harry Potter/Hogwarts themed casino???!! I may have just squealed with excitement at the thought of that!!

(I'm in that weird cusp between Gex X and Millennial, FWIW)

[BBMW]

I know this is a tad OT, but the Millennial issue has come up in this thread. I have a thought on the Millennials not gambling thing. The boomers came up gambling in an era when gambling was better and only in Vegas. I don't have detail how the casinos have squeezed whatever hope there was in house banked gambling out of the games they offer. We all know. But the boomers got into it when it was better. And some like it enough to put up with the crappy current offerings.

But the Millennials never got to experience gambling the way it was. For them gambling has always been a corporate race to bust out. They've never been able to have the fantasy they could actually win. So they've never bonding with it.

My basis for this is that there is one form of gambling that is heavily populated by Millennials, poker. Plenty play that. Why? Maybe because, since it isn't house banked, they can win if they're good enough. It doesn't seem like the total rip off the regular house banked casino gambling has become.

[Merrily Gather]

Originally Posted by BBMW

If they don't get the millenials to gamble, why do the millenials need Vegas at all. You can build hotels with dance clubs, bars, restaurants and shopping anywhere. Plant them in Cali, just beyond the edge of the LA metro area, and chop 2-3 hours off the drive from LA.

At the moment, the Vegas tourist industry has come back pretty well from the crash. But I'm seeing a few things that make me think it's digging a grave for itself down the line.

They don't need it. That's the point. They need to innovate. I hear ya on the digging a grave.

Originally Posted by daveyjones978

A Harry Potter/Hogwarts themed casino???!! I may have just squealed with excitement at the thought of that!!

(I'm in that weird cusp between Gex X and Millennial, FWIW)

I'm right there with you in that same cusp. I could totally go for an adult themed wizard world while playing on a fantasy. There's the ministry of magic, hogwart, diagon alley. Maybe for the American themed they could play on Fantastic Beasts and do Ivenese. The American Wizarding school. Then Newt's entire menagerie. Expand and sell wizard themed outfits in purple and green of course, foods, beverages. I'd be down there everyday. Do entire augmented reality games to keep us captivated and send us on a virtual reality tour. We may pay to play these choose your own adventure experiences.

[Merrily Gather]

Originally Posted by BBMW

I know this is a tad OT, but the Millennial issue has come up in this thread. I have a thought on the Millennials not gambling thing. The boomers came up gambling in an era when gambling was better and only in Vegas. I don't have detail how the casinos have squeezed whatever hope there was in house banked gambling out of the games they offer. We all know. But the boomers got into it when it was better. And some like it enough to put up with the crappy current offerings.

But the Millennials never got to experience gambling the way it was. For them gambling has always been a corporate race to bust out. They've never been able to have the fantasy they could actually win. So they've never bonding with it.

My basis for this is that there is one form of gambling that is heavily populated by Millennials, poker. Plenty play that. Why? Maybe because, since it isn't house banked, they can win if they're good enough. It doesn't seem like the total rip off the regular house banked casino gambling has become.

Yah I was thinking poker too. I know many of my friends are only into that game and blackjack, but really they don't care about gambling at all. They're into experiences. Vegas is an experience but beyond the party scene I'm not sure it's a return experience for them.

[stevek64]

So we have almost $40 in resort fee costs at some properties, check!

We now are getting into paid parking perhaps being standard at most strip properties, check!

What's next, charge for using the elevators? Bathrooms?

Originally Posted by ElleTea

It's close.

Right now you can book Bally's for a M-Thurs in December for $29 a night, plus the resort fee which is also $29.

ha, crazy. But you're right, I think some of the cheaper mgm properties are also in that category already, the room cheaper than the resort fee.

Originally Posted by Camaro5

That could be a clever marketing gimmick. Get a comped night for just the cost of the $58/night resort fees. I believe they cannot legally use the word "free" if the customer has to pay something, but there are ways to dance around that.

Our experience has been that certain properties don't require you to buy the resort fee if you're comped. We got a comped night recently at the Encore at Wynn and we didn't have to buy the resort fee, it was optional, so the room was truly no cost. But.....if you get a comped room and tag on an extra night that you pay for, my understanding in how it was explained to me is you're required to buy the resort fee for both nights, the comped room and the pay room. Go figure.

[Tornado Baby]

Get rid of the smoke. People might just stay longer.

[robojester]

poker is no longer quite the businesses it used to be when rounders first came out. Too many people have figured out they can skip the Rake if they buy a deck of cards and some chips.
lots of people are having home tournaments these days even ushers from my church have one once a month.

I wrote it was hard to find a poker room in Vegas.. Then rounders came out, moneymaker won the WS 0P and every college kid with the dream was going to go pro.

Something similar happened to the billiard industry when the color of Money came out with Tom Cruise. Everyone was given by queuing hustle the old guys at the pool hall..

Corporate greed is gone along way towards destroying poker is well for reasons I won't bore you with.

If you want specifics, I'll be happy to give them.

however poker does offer one upside to the casino, it never loses. There's no luck involved for the house. No waiting for the long run you drop rake every hand .

iit's really a perception issue. For the most part though. Because the rake structure can easily make a poker game unbeatable. No matter how good you are.

[BBMW]

They're upping the rakes and imposing useless (to good players) promo funds.

But that wasn't my point. The point was that they offered a form of gambling where there was some hope of winning, and the millennials got into it.

Originally Posted by robojester

poker is no longer quite the businesses it used to be when rounders first came out. Too many people have figured out they can skip the Rake if they buy a deck of cards and some chips.
lots of people are having home tournaments these days even ushers from my church have one once a month.

I wrote it was hard to find a poker room in Vegas.. Then rounders came out, moneymaker won the WS 0P and every college kid with the dream was going to go pro.

Something similar happened to the billiard industry when the color of Money came out with Tom Cruise. Everyone was given by queuing hustle the old guys at the pool hall..

Corporate greed is gone along way towards destroying poker is well for reasons I won't bore you with.

If you want specifics, I'll be happy to give them.

however poker does offer one upside to the casino, it never loses. There's no luck involved for the house. No waiting for the long run you drop rake every hand .

iit's really a perception issue. For the most part though. Because the rake structure can easily make a poker game unbeatable. No matter how good you are.

[Caltovegas]

If they win, they will come. As for parking? People come to Vegas expecting to spend money. Paying for parking isn't that much. Real travelers know it. Then there's uber.