[caltrinity]

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2017/fe...oject-neons-l/

Good in theory but practically really silly since people end up breaking the solid white line and merging earlier. Or worse, they just stop in the lane prematurely to try to merge early blocking all the traffic from flowing. This will also cause more road rage if people merge at the last minute and cut someone off because people don't let you in.

Primary example: 95 Southbound to 15 South at the spaghetti bowl

Another example: 215 Eastbound to 15 North.

Another example: 15 Southbound to 215 West. mostly due to poor signage.

just my 2 cents.

[vanilla ice]

Yeah wont be easy, but its worth pushing the zipper. Driver education is an ongoing process, its worth the state investing more in it than what they do.

I think that is why fearful folks merge in way earlier than what is ideal for traffic... They have some negative experience from when they do it proper @ end of lane, where they get blocked by some a holes.

[OmegaSupreme]

Originally Posted by vanilla ice

Yeah wont be easy, but its worth pushing the zipper. Driver education is an ongoing process, its worth the state investing more in it than what they do.

I think that is why fearful folks merge in way earlier than what is ideal for traffic... They have some negative experience from when they do it proper @ end of lane, where they get blocked by some a holes.

That doesn't seem proper to me. I'll continue to block the aholes who think they can cut the line.

What's your rush anyway? Quickly on your way to a car crash?

[caltrinity]

Originally Posted by OmegaSupreme

That doesn't seem proper to me. I'll continue to block the aholes who think they can cut the line.

What's your rush anyway? Quickly on your way to a car crash?

Precisely why zippering doesn't work.... or requires significant "reeducation" of the public driving habits... the NV DOT has its work cut out for them...

[OmegaSupreme]

Originally Posted by caltrinity

Precisely why zippering doesn't work.... or requires significant "reeducation" of the public driving habits... the NV DOT has its work cut out for them...

I ain't goin back to school and I ain't changin' the way I drive

[Call]

"Zippering" does not speed anything up. The speed restriction is in the narrowing to a single lane. BTW, the illustration is an illustration of multiple tailgating.

[ddrhazy]

Originally Posted by Call

"Zippering" does not speed anything up. The speed restriction is in the narrowing to a single lane. BTW, the illustration is an illustration of multiple tailgating.

Zippering is just the most efficient use of space for the entire body of traffic. When you break the pattern, you may increase your travel time by a couple of seconds but you increase everybody else's time in traffic by a much larger amount. And then you also create a hazard by trying to cut in front of people in a zipper merge. Just like this guy in the video who got instant karma.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV2JBbol2To

[OmegaSupreme]

Zipper merging does not work, kinda like prisoner's dilemma

[caltrinity]

Originally Posted by OmegaSupreme

Zipper merging does not work, kinda like prisoner's dilemma

Agreed on the prisoner's dilemma... wish the NV DOT takes a hard look at how other cities do on and off ramps. The way it is now is just poor design and totally unnecessary stress on a daily basis for 1000s of commuters. I understand why they do it this way because it is more "cost efficient" vs building an extra lane for dedicated on and off ramps... but in the long run, for a burgeoning city, it is not good transportation infrastructure IMHO.

[Tek_Freek]

Originally Posted by caltrinity

Agreed on the prisoner's dilemma... wish the NV DOT takes a hard look at how other cities do on and off ramps. The way it is now is just poor design and totally unnecessary stress on a daily basis for 1000s of commuters. I understand why they do it this way because it is more "cost efficient" vs building an extra lane for dedicated on and off ramps... but in the long run, for a burgeoning city, it is not good transportation infrastructure IMHO.

When Des Moines, Iowa rebuilt the freeway (Took 7 years iirc) every exit/entrance ramp was a separate lane. If you got into trouble entering you could just stay in the lane and exit. Made a huge difference in traffic patterns and reduced travel times. They also demolished every bridge that went over the freeway and rebuilt them a few feet higher. Fun to watch it being rebuilt, but a pita to use during construction.