[Scarlet Witch]

Originally Posted by quebon

No doubt many people are this way. My neighbors raised a great kid in Vegas who will not be sucked in or bothered by the dregs of Las Vegas society. Looking at the kid, he may as well have been raised in Utah.

Las Vegas outside of the main city seems like a very family oriented community. People who reside there say that they don't even think about the strip cause they have enough there to keep them occupied. I love the community homes and seems like a more ideal lifestyle to raise a child. Another reason as well is that if you see the cons of how other people live their lives through temptations chances are you won't do it.

[SportyandMisty]

Originally Posted by Scarlet Witch

What I don't like is how certain people in America want to deny that America is a nation of immigrants.

My, how very tolerant of you.

[aswontsp]

Originally Posted by Scarlet Witch

Las Vegas outside of the main city seems like a very family oriented community. People who reside there say that they don't even think about the strip cause they have enough there to keep them occupied. I love the community homes and seems like a more ideal lifestyle to raise a child. Another reason as well is that if you see the cons of how other people live their lives through temptations chances are you won't do it.

I see your point. However, you are not factoring in the potential consequences related to stability issues that my be of significant impact. I know folks will call this hearsay, but for example, this neighbor mentioned that they moved 3 times to different communities across the valley because each one somehow became compromised and they needed the right environment to raise their child in. He is now a young adult and it seems like the current neighborhood they are in is devolving into a rental community with some of it becoming section 8.

He said things like "Yeah, growing up there was a great community here but it is different now... all my friends moved away and the new people don't even come out of their houses or say hello". "It was nice before helicopters started circling around here so frequently and we didn't have to worry as much about crime", etc. I was listening to this young kid talking about his glory days and the first thing that crossed my mind was that he is way too young for that type of depressed mentality.

[ABQConvict]

Originally Posted by halfamazing

Well, I actually thrive on your types.

But since I am new to this section and you haven't yet learned my writing styles, I will give you a hard pass. But the next time, I will not be so kind.

Easy there, internet tough guy.

[NLVgal]

Originally Posted by Scarlet Witch

Las Vegas outside of the main city seems like a very family oriented community. People who reside there say that they don't even think about the strip cause they have enough there to keep them occupied. I love the community homes and seems like a more ideal lifestyle to raise a child. Another reason as well is that if you see the cons of how other people live their lives through temptations chances are you won't do it.

"Ideal lifestyle to raise a child"? No. It can be done. I've done it. But it's pretty far from ideal, especially teens.

If you raise your kids here, they will have many friends move away each year. It's unlikely that they will have more than one or two friends that they will " grow up" with. They will know at least one or two kids whose parents are strung out on drugs or are serious alcoholics. They will know exactly who they need to talk to if they need to score meth, pills, ecstasy etc. ( that is pretty much true in the whole country though). They will go to school with some kids whose parent works the night shift and has no idea what their child is up to at night. They will go to school with at least one child who is technically homeless. My son ran into a girl he knew from English class working at Little Darlins on his 18th birthday. ( Little Darlins is a totally nude club with no liquor license, so ages 18 and up can enter it or work there)

There are pluses as well. Vegas kids, once matured are practically the most worldly young people ever. They are not impressed with flashy things or people because they grew up in the shadow of the strip. Most of them don't gamble after a few trips to the casino when they turn 21. The novelty wears off pretty quick when there's been slot machines in every grocery store and 7-11 you've ever been to.

Any involved parent can raise a great kid in Las Vegas, but Vegas is not a kid friendly place by nature.

[Scarlet Witch]

Originally Posted by quebon

I see your point. However, you are not factoring in the potential consequences related to stability issues that my be of significant impact. I know folks will call this hearsay, but for example, this neighbor mentioned that they moved 3 times to different communities across the valley because each one somehow became compromised and they needed the right environment to raise their child in. He is now a young adult and it seems like the current neighborhood they are in is devolving into a rental community with some of it becoming section 8.

He said things like "Yeah, growing up there was a great community here but it is different now... all my friends moved away and the new people don't even come out of their houses or say hello". "It was nice before helicopters started circling around here so frequently and we didn't have to worry as much about crime", etc. I was listening to this young kid talking about his glory days and the first thing that crossed my mind was that he is way too young for that type of depressed mentality.

Originally Posted by NLVgal

"Ideal lifestyle to raise a child"? No. It can be done. I've done it. But it's pretty far from ideal, especially teens.

If you raise your kids here, they will have many friends move away each year. It's unlikely that they will have more than one or two friends that they will " grow up" with. They will know at least one or two kids whose parents are strung out on drugs or are serious alcoholics. They will know exactly who they need to talk to if they need to score meth, pills, ecstasy etc. ( that is pretty much true in the whole country though). They will go to school with some kids whose parent works the night shift and has no idea what their child is up to at night. They will go to school with at least one child who is technically homeless. My son ran into a girl he knew from English class working at Little Darlins on his 18th birthday. ( Little Darlins is a totally nude club with no liquor license, so ages 18 and up can enter it or work there)

There are pluses as well. Vegas kids, once matured are practically the most worldly young people ever. They are not impressed with flashy things or people because they grew up in the shadow of the strip. Most of them don't gamble after a few trips to the casino when they turn 21. The novelty wears off pretty quick when there's been slot machines in every grocery store and 7-11 you've ever been to.

Any involved parent can raise a great kid in Las Vegas, but Vegas is not a kid friendly place by nature.

Arizona or Utah might be the better place to raise a child then. Las Vegas is either for the single, the retired and the adults who don't want children.

I don't know how political some of you guys are but Section 8 housing is all over the place. It is no longer the projects in rundown areas that people assume. I know some areas in a rich middle class area that is section 8.

[NLVgal]

Originally Posted by Scarlet Witch

Arizona or Utah might be the better place to raise a child then. Las Vegas is either for the single, the retired and the adults who don't want children.

I don't know how political some of you guys are but Section 8 housing is all over the place. It is no longer the projects in rundown areas that people assume. I know some areas in a rich middle class area that is section 8.

The housing bust is the reason for the section 8 spread. When the market crashed, a bunch of out of state investors snapped up the cheap houses as rental properties. They don't care what kind of people they rent to as long as the rent is paid.

[lvmensch]

They are renters. They are very unlikely to be Section 8. I believe in all of LV there are about 5800 Section 8 renters. That is out of about 800,000 housing units in the County. And a significant part of thse are the elderly who get preferential access.

I sometimes suspect that "Section 8" is actual a reference to people of color.

[SportyandMisty]

Originally Posted by Scarlet Witch

The east coast people are easily the most spoiled.

Originally Posted by Scarlet Witch

East Coast people have a busier lifestyle which is why they are miserable.

Generalize much?

[aswontsp]

Originally Posted by lvmensch

They are renters. They are very unlikely to be Section 8. I believe in all of LV there are about 5800 Section 8 renters. That is out of about 800,000 housing units in the County. And a significant part of thse are the elderly who get preferential access.

I sometimes suspect that "Section 8" is actual a reference to people of color.

Not in my case. I had an investor down the street scoop up the house at auction and then physically make it run down on purpose, to be able to rent it to sec 8. All it took was one house like this to place an entire block on edge.