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Old 10-03-2017, 09:32 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, Texas
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A friend's fiancée's mom here in San Antonio was at the concert. She escaped with minor scrapes and bruises from climbing over a fence to get away. She's home safe now. But goodness, gracious, what a horrible situation.
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Old 10-03-2017, 09:59 AM
 
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Probably to help people find their way out. I imagine no one really fully had comprehended what was happening at that point. Many still thought it was firecrackers.
Loud concert may have drowned out the gunfire noise, add in crowd noise and drinking all day and surely it took some people time to notice though the singer and his band running off the stage would have been a huge sign something is going wrong.

Worst part would be trying to figure out where to run, obviously echo off the buildings would confuse some where the gunfire was originating from. Some folks crawling on the ground clearly indicate they did not know the gunfire was coming from above.
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Old 10-03-2017, 11:34 AM
 
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Even off duty police and military vets attending the concert couldn't initially tell where the gunfire was coming from.

Turning on the floodlights at least gave people a chance to see where they were going. You can't have 20,000 people running in a panic in the dark. There likely would have been casualties from trampling if all the lights had been turned off.

I really feel for everyone who was there; I don't think any of us who weren't can really imagine what it was like.
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Old 10-03-2017, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Idaho
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My best friend, (I'm currently staying at her house while mine is on the market), is a middle school teacher here in the Antelope Valley and knows one of the kindergarten teachers in the district who attended the concert and was shot. She leaves behind two small children and a husband. Sad and tragic.
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Old 10-03-2017, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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My best friend, (I'm currently staying at her house while mine is on the market), is a middle school teacher here in the Antelope Valley and knows one of the kindergarten teachers in the district who attended the concert and was shot. She leaved behind two small children and a husband. Sad and tragic.
Very sad! This one tragedy will touch the lives of thousands of people.
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Old 10-03-2017, 12:09 PM
 
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to think I was just there last week, I stayed at the Luxor, if I had decided to go to Vegas this week instead of last week, I can only imagine what it was like inside the Luxor while all this was happening cuz there's a direct walkway from Mandalay to the Luxor
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Old 10-03-2017, 01:13 PM
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Location: Las Vegas
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Old 10-03-2017, 01:15 PM
 
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STOP IT! This thread is not the place for discussion of gun rights, gun control, Second Amendment rights, instruments of mass destruction, religion, partisan politics, the shifting of the societal paradigm, or other off topic comments. Some of them have been incredibly insensitive.

People are hurting! Many are dead. Some are still dying, despite the best efforts of skilled medical providers. Thousands of people directly affected are trying to make sense of the insanity and it will be years before they can put their lives back together again.

Please don't cause this thread to be closed. Stay 'on topic' and take the other stuff to the appropriate fora.
Just want to repeat this. This is a sensitive subject, but this thread will be closed if it goes off topic again. If you are unsure if your post is off topic for this thread, please see the first line of volosong's post quoted above. If it fits within those guidelines, DON'T POST IT.
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Old 10-03-2017, 02:17 PM
 
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I haven’t read all the posts, but to me, the most chilling thing about this is that NOBODY could see it coming.
A regular guy just snaps. There is no way to protect ourselves against that.
We all just have today, guys, so treat each day as precious.
I think there is more we need to do than that. There is evil in the world -- it tugs at everyone, trying to find people who are susceptible to its pull.

The way to lessen evil's power is for each of us to turn to other human beings with kindness and respect whenever we can, even when it isn't easy to do so. We can all learn how to do this from the people who did just that on Sunday night, even when it put their own lives at risk. They lessened the power of evil in their actions.

We may never be in a position to do as much to help others as they did, but we each have other opportunities every day to be compassionate with others in our thoughts, words, and deeds, even if it is only on a small level.

Evil hates compassion and kindness.

Ultimately, we can't stop evil, but in the battle between good and evil, the more people who remember this and act upon it, the less power evil will have over us.

And, I would also like to give both Volosong and Elletea two thumbs up for reminding us that we have more important work to do than win political debates. Thank you both, guys, for all that you do.
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Old 10-03-2017, 02:18 PM
 
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This is all well and good. But the shooter was never identified previously as having any form of mental illness.

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