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Old 01-29-2019, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Originally Posted by equid0x View Post

1. "Good people" who are just looking to make a better life for themselves don't use tunnels to cross a border.

2. "Good people" who are just looking to make a better life for themselves don't overstay their visas.

3. Legitimate immigrants wouldn't jeopardize their ability to gain....
Thank goodness you aren't the judge of anything important.

I suggest you watch the Fahrenheit 11/9 and you will learn exactly how you are being played like the puppet you are

 
Old 01-29-2019, 09:17 PM
 
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Yes let's clear a few things up. We have walls around our homes for privacy. If you think the only houses that get robbed or invaded are the ones without walls you are delusional.

If you think walls around houses are analogous to border walls, and you do, then you are most certainly delusional.

Most Republicans are embarrassed about the turd that is the president. The only ones who aren't are the racists.
It's called a metaphor, and it's a good one since the problems are exactly the same.

A robber walks up to a cul-de-sac with 3 houses. One has a wall all the way around, One has cameras and a wall in back, one has nothing. Which house does the robber rob first?

I'm not a Republican. I'm not sure what your source of info is for "most Republicans are embarrassed" ... Says who?

Border security isn't racist. Potential immigrants can apply for a visa or claim asylum at any US consulate or at an official border crossing. There are no racial barriers preventing them from doing this now and there weren't any before.
 
Old 01-29-2019, 09:31 PM
 
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Thank goodness you aren't the judge of anything important.

I suggest you watch the Fahrenheit 11/9 and you will learn exactly how you are being played like the puppet you are
Michael Moore? C'mon, another far-left socialist? The man took US citizens to Cuba for medical treatment FFS.

You're the one being played. I will clue you in on the real agenda:

The Democrats are scared ****less that the aging Boomers will lean Conservative (Republican) and they will lose their voter base. They have been using the Dept of Education to indoctrinate Millennials (the next largest generation) with socialism/communism(a far left ideology) with the goal of securing their voter base into the future.

The Millennials aren't fully politically active yet. As stop-gap, they have been importing typically left-leaning Latinos from Mexico and Central America, enabling them to stay in the US, and enabling them to vote.

The Democrats will do anything in their power to stop the wall from being built and to keep our immigration laws from being enforced because a stop to the flow will mean a lack of Democrat voters in an increasingly Conservative population.
 
Old 01-29-2019, 09:37 PM
 
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Yes let's clear a few things up. We have walls around our homes for privacy. If you think the only houses that get robbed or invaded are the ones without walls you are delusional.

If you think walls around houses are analogous to border walls, and you do, then you are most certainly delusional.

Most Republicans are embarrassed about the turd that is the president. The only ones who aren't are the racists.
Why does it bother you so much if we(USA) build a wall? Isn't that our right as a sovereign nation? Yes, walls don't completely stop anything..yadi yadi yada...but it's a huge deterrent to illegal crossers. I know it's hard for you to believe but that's a fact, hence secure facilities have walls. Are you saying that you will have the same number of illegal crossings on an area irregardless if it has a wall or not? You are really showing your ignorance in basic tenet of physical security. Yes it won't stop everything, but a huge deterrence is better than nothing, now that is common sense, something you don't get.

If you say it doesn't work, then so what if we build it? These walls will be standing with very little maintenance but huge impact. Are you worried about the $5.7B it will cost to build it? That amount is crumbs compare to the money we spend on welfare and taking care of illegal immigrants, that's a fact.

Lets put your house next to the border on area without a wall or any security fencing for that matter, lets see if you can sleep at night.

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Old 01-29-2019, 09:50 PM
 
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Michael Moore? C'mon, another far-left socialist? The man took US citizens to Cuba for medical treatment FFS.

You're the one being played. I will clue you in on the real agenda:

The Democrats are scared ****less that the aging Boomers will lean Conservative (Republican) and they will lose their voter base. They have been using the Dept of Education to indoctrinate Millennials (the next largest generation) with socialism/communism(a far left ideology) with the goal of securing their voter base into the future.

The Millennials aren't fully politically active yet. As stop-gap, they have been importing typically left-leaning Latinos from Mexico and Central America, enabling them to stay in the US, and enabling them to vote.

The Democrats will do anything in their power to stop the wall from being built and to keep our immigration laws from being enforced because a stop to the flow will mean a lack of Democrat voters in an increasingly Conservative population.
I've never heard of 11/9, I've heard of 9/11.

Equid0x, I say just leave it be. These people are extremely so far to the left it makes me wonder why they don't pack up and move to Venezuela, lol, it's a great place to be for liberals.

Now let them continue drinking California liberal milk and let's get back to the topic at hand.
 
Old 01-29-2019, 09:53 PM
 
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The Democrats are scared ****less that the aging Boomers will lean Conservative (Republican) and they will lose their voter base. They have been using the Dept of Education to indoctrinate Millennials (the next largest generation) with socialism/communism(a far left ideology) with the goal of securing their voter base into the future.
That is ridiculous. Even when the democrats lose presidential elections they win the popular vote and this last time by the widest margin ever. It is the Republicans that appear to be scared, but that is normal for them.

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Originally Posted by equid0x View Post

The Millennials aren't fully politically active yet. As stop-gap, they have been importing typically left-leaning Latinos from Mexico and Central America, enabling them to stay in the US, and enabling them to vote.

The Democrats will do anything in their power to stop the wall from being built and to keep our immigration laws from being enforced because a stop to the flow will mean a lack of Democrat voters in an increasingly Conservative population.
You may be delighted with a nation of old people, but many others will not be. No political party is 'importing' anyone. That is more paranoia. Most of the current crop of immigrants IMany of whom crossed illegally) are here because of business, and business is run by individuals from both parties. There are many children born to illegals, many children have been born to people that fall into the category of DACA. They already are a large, young, and generally productive part of our society. People really should get used to it, because it isn't going away, and that is a good thing.
 
Old 01-29-2019, 10:06 PM
 
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That is ridiculous. Even when the democrats lose presidential elections they win the popular vote and this last time by the widest margin ever. It is the Republicans that appear to be scared, but that is normal for them.


You may be delighted with a nation of old people, but many others will not be. No political party is 'importing' anyone. That is more paranoia. Most of the current crop of immigrants IMany of whom crossed illegally) are here because of business, and business is run by individuals from both parties. There are many children born to illegals, many children have been born to people that fall into the category of DACA. They already are a large, young, and generally productive part of our society. People really should get used to it, because it isn't going away, and that is a good thing.
If we ever go to world war III, God forbid, you can bet the first people to start hightailing out of here are the DACA and illegal immigrants. These people will not think twice abandoning the US or won't even think laying their lives on the line for us, believe it or not.
 
Old 01-29-2019, 10:16 PM
 
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If we ever go to world war III, God forbid, you can bet the first people to start hightailing out of here are the DACA and illegal immigrants. These people will not think twice abandoning the US or won't even think laying their lives on the line for us, believe it or not.
You are worried about WWIII. Don't worry, if there is a genuine WWIII there will be death everywhere. I wouldn't base too many decisions on WWIII.
In addition, I don't agree with what you said about the large group you generalized about. This is the only country they know so I doubt they would go anywhere in much greater numbers than anybody else. In addition they now make up a sizable percentage of the new military recruits, and that number is going to continue to grow. They will be the ones defending you, despite how ungrateful it appears you are, believe it or not.
 
Old 01-29-2019, 10:26 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Why does it bother you so much if we(USA) build a wall? Isn't that our right as a sovereign nation? Yes, walls don't completely stop anything..yadi yadi yada...but it's a huge deterrent to illegal crossers. I know it's hard for you to believe but that's a fact, hence secure facilities have walls. Are you saying that you will have the same number of illegal crossings on an area irregardless if it has a wall or not? You are really showing your ignorance in basic tenet of physical security. Yes it won't stop everything, but a huge deterrence is better than nothing, now that is common sense, something you don't get.

If you say it doesn't work, then so what if we build it? These walls will be standing with very little maintenance but huge impact. Are you worried about the $5.7B it will cost to build it? That amount is crumbs compare to the money we spend on welfare and taking care of illegal immigrants, that's a fact.

Lets put your house next to the border on area without a wall or any security fencing for that matter, lets see if you can sleep at night.
What's a fact is illegal immigrants are good for the economy and lead to lower crime rates. Or did you not know that?

Stupid scared fool, wants a wall that won't even work and will be nothing but our (we) the (USA) biggest eyesore. Second only to the buffoon running the place (into the ground)

Unfortunately we are moving as far away from a democracy than ever before. You can't have a democracy when an authoritarian leader makes all the decisions, was elected into office through dirty money and a flawed election system.
 
Old 01-29-2019, 10:32 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Originally Posted by MaryoVilla View Post
If you say it doesn't work, then so what if we build it? These walls will be standing with very little maintenance but huge impact. Are you worried about the $5.7B it will cost to build it? That amount is crumbs compare to the money we spend on welfare and taking care of illegal immigrants, that's a fact.
I don't want my tax paying dollars to fund the wall. I don't want to pay more for goods because tariffs are slapped on imports.

Again, you have no concept of gdp and the net benefit illegals give, and that's a fact

Might as well take down the statue of liberty because it clearly doesn't say anything about the mindset of this country anymore
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