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There are some industries here that lack a lot diversity. I moved here for a certain industry 2 years ago almost, bought a home and am doing quite well. There's always room for improvement.
I think the key to surviving and being successful here is you just have to keep yourself busy. When you have too much time, you may rationalize your behavior and spend money you otherwise wouldn't.
I also think people either love Vegas or they hate it as well though. You have to be a special kind of person that isn't bothered by uneducated people and others who you may shake your head at.
If you live in Las Vegas and you refer to everyone in LV as "losers", "rejects" or otherwise, what does that say about you?
What even defines "loser"? Money? Education? Is San Francisco a city full of "winners"? If so, why is half the population living in tents on the sidewalk while the billionaires in their $2000 loafers are having to tiptoe through the tulips while walking down the street to avoid slipping and sliding on human feces? I dunno, personally I would take Vegas any day over that.
Regarding SF, you are referring to a rather new-age concept that happened as a result of Silicon Valley and how they took one of the most beautiful cities in the world and drove it into the ground in <10 years.
Case in point, Las Vegas has always drawn in the 'losers' since its inception and has been well known and highly regarded as such a place. It is not a city (large suburb) anyone is actually 'proud' of being from if born there because there is nothing to believe in when you come from a place like that. Nor does it provide anything but a bitter taste in the mouths of the people who are normal, cosmopolitan, worldly and well traveled. I recently left Nevada and now when people ask me about living there they usually ask "Ok, but WHY?" Nobody I know thinks highly of it.
Las Vegas is just a far fetch for a kid who grew up in an east coast college town, I only lived in Nevada for tax purposes while I ran a successful web business then left because of the heat and overall dirty, depressing vibes I was getting every day. I grew tired of being accosted at gas stations in Summerlin, seeing mugshots of people who recently robbed the gas stations, etc. There is a huge feeling despair around the city that I just could not shake. I'm not saying everyone there is a lost cause, but man, the place is just crawling with them and there is no reason for a successful intellect to live there unless they are alone and yearn for the desert. This country is too far and wide. Like I said, it is more of a vibe that you feel in and around this city more than any single group of people, what ever they may be. Las Vegas feels (with some exceptions) like a dollar store version of a regular suburb to me. I know some folks here will know what I mean.
Regarding SF, you are referring to a rather new-age concept that happened as a result of Silicon Valley and how they took one of the most beautiful cities in the world and drove it into the ground in <10 years.
Case in point, Las Vegas has always drawn in the 'losers' since its inception and has been well known and highly regarded as such a place. It is not a city (large suburb) anyone is actually 'proud' of being from if born there because there is nothing to believe in when you come from a place like that. Nor does it provide anything but a bitter taste in the mouths of the people who are normal, cosmopolitan, worldly and well traveled. I recently left Nevada and now when people ask me about living there they usually ask "Ok, but WHY?" Nobody I know thinks highly of it.
Las Vegas is just a far fetch for a kid who grew up in an east coast college town, I only lived in Nevada for tax purposes while I ran a successful web business then left because of the heat and overall dirty, depressing vibes I was getting every day. I grew tired of being accosted at gas stations in Summerlin, seeing mugshots of people who recently robbed the gas stations, etc. There is a huge feeling despair around the city that I just could not shake. I'm not saying everyone there is a lost cause, but man, the place is just crawling with them and there is no reason for a successful intellect to live there unless they are alone and yearn for the desert. This country is too far and wide. Like I said, it is more of a vibe that you feel in and around this city more than any single group of people, what ever they may be. Las Vegas feels (with some exceptions) like a dollar store version of a regular suburb to me. I know some folks here will know what I mean.
Las Vegas is a service industry town, and wishing it to be something else will never change that fact.
Regarding SF, you are referring to a rather new-age concept that happened as a result of Silicon Valley and how they took one of the most beautiful cities in the world and drove it into the ground in <10 years.
Case in point, Las Vegas has always drawn in the 'losers' since its inception and has been well known and highly regarded as such a place. It is not a city (large suburb) anyone is actually 'proud' of being from if born there because there is nothing to believe in when you come from a place like that. Nor does it provide anything but a bitter taste in the mouths of the people who are normal, cosmopolitan, worldly and well traveled. I recently left Nevada and now when people ask me about living there they usually ask "Ok, but WHY?" Nobody I know thinks highly of it.
Las Vegas is just a far fetch for a kid who grew up in an east coast college town, I only lived in Nevada for tax purposes while I ran a successful web business then left because of the heat and overall dirty, depressing vibes I was getting every day. I grew tired of being accosted at gas stations in Summerlin, seeing mugshots of people who recently robbed the gas stations, etc. There is a huge feeling despair around the city that I just could not shake. I'm not saying everyone there is a lost cause, but man, the place is just crawling with them and there is no reason for a successful intellect to live there unless they are alone and yearn for the desert. This country is too far and wide. Like I said, it is more of a vibe that you feel in and around this city more than any single group of people, what ever they may be. Las Vegas feels (with some exceptions) like a dollar store version of a regular suburb to me. I know some folks here will know what I mean.
When did you live in Nevada? I thought you worked for ASW in Ontario Canada.
I constantly wonder why some people live in a city they hate then go to forums and complain.
We'll help you pack.
LOL, basically, yeah. Honestly though you'll find people who love or hate anywhere, and the experience of a city is highly dependent on the circumstances. The idea that people who move to Vegas are "losers" is hilarious. The people who move to Vegas have as varied of reasons as the people themselves! People move for all kinds of reasons. My millionaire friend moved from Los Angeles to Las Vegas in Summerlin because he works for himself, he can run his business from anywhere, and he was tired of CA's liberal politics. He wasn't a "loser," he's a family man who realized for $1.5M he could get a beautiful home in Summerlin or a shack in Los Angeles and pay way higher taxes for the "privilege" of living there.
My girlfriend's best friend grew up in Vegas and is now moving back because she's a chef and the opportunities for chefs are much better in Vegas than they are in most other cities of the U.S. or the world.
I'm moving to Vegas because I enjoy the sun, 0% income taxes, a more mixed political atmosphere, 24/7 culture, and world class dining and entertainment.
Everyone has their own reasons, it seems a ridiculous leap to think that people who move to Vegas "couldn't make it anywhere else" so they ended up in Vegas.
I'd love to know where you think is so great? Because I chose Vegas over any other city. I have the funds to live anywhere I want, but I couldn't find another place with lower taxes, better weather for me, around-the-clock services for a night owl, better entertainment and food options, and where my money went far enough that I was pleased with the costs. Any answer you give, that place will suck compared to Vegas on my calculus. If it doesn't for you, go move there, but why I'd want to live in some cold weather state I have no clue, and I have zero interest in hurricane Florida or high-tax earthquake liberal CA, so that leaves Nevada and Arizona as meeting my definitions of good weather, low tax, and right political atmosphere. AZ doesn't have The Strip or no income taxes, so it loses.
That last paragraph is pretty much how my calculus comes up as well. I don't like casinos or night life type entertainment particularly much, but it just makes a lot sense otherwise. Diversity is nice sometimes.. cultural, political, food. I need good food. And no pneumonia is nice too.
The whole "loser" and "couldn't make it anywhere else" thing, I don't know why you would attribute that title to a place with living costs twice as high as other cities. You can get two homes for what a Vegas home runs in plenty of places out there.
What is hilarious is that you think rich people can't be losers? What you implore here is just feel-good nonsense for a good rub of the ego. Las Vegas is a blue collar town either which way you slice it sir, it is not made up of your 'millionaire friends'.
Nevada is slowly becoming a red state, and when it eventually does its political pull on this country will be surrendered. There are hundreds of thousands of people who live in modest houses all over the city, but you depict some utopia where every person is lumped into Summerlin ripe with a Luis Vuitton tote and a cool million bucks in the bank. I urge you to walk into any locals casino, open your eyes and look around at all the folks in wheelchairs with a beer in one hand, cigarette in the other and breathing tubes and oxygen tanks by their side. These people sit around their houses all day hoarding QVC deliveries while waiting for a social security check to come in so they can run to the Suncoast and insert it right into the slot machine. If you don't see this going on everywhere then you're simply blind to it.
Where else is great? Come on, it is America! There are many great places to explore all over this country. Maybe travel more? In the end Vegas fell flat for me since it was not sophisticated or refined enough for my living standards. The vibe of the city is a bit too basic and relaxed, but there are still lots of people living in competition when they have nothing to show for it. I made my money and left, those are some of the reasons.
Here is a little secret for you, it is all a mindset. That's it. Some can find la dolce vita anywhere and I commend them for it. You sound like a free spirit so enjoy your life and don't take things so seriously here. Vegas is a unique place for sure, but not for me and many others like myself and that is fine.
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LOL, basically, yeah. Honestly though you'll find people who love or hate anywhere, and the experience of a city is highly dependent on the circumstances. The idea that people who move to Vegas are "losers" is hilarious. The people who move to Vegas have as varied of reasons as the people themselves! People move for all kinds of reasons. My millionaire friend moved from Los Angeles to Las Vegas in Summerlin because he works for himself, he can run his business from anywhere, and he was tired of CA's liberal politics. He wasn't a "loser," he's a family man who realized for $1.5M he could get a beautiful home in Summerlin or a shack in Los Angeles and pay way higher taxes for the "privilege" of living there.
My girlfriend's best friend grew up in Vegas and is now moving back because she's a chef and the opportunities for chefs are much better in Vegas than they are in most other cities of the U.S. or the world.
I'm moving to Vegas because I enjoy the sun, 0% income taxes, a more mixed political atmosphere, 24/7 culture, and world class dining and entertainment.
Everyone has their own reasons, it seems a ridiculous leap to think that people who move to Vegas "couldn't make it anywhere else" so they ended up in Vegas.
I'd love to know where you think is so great? Because I chose Vegas over any other city. I have the funds to live anywhere I want, but I couldn't find another place with lower taxes, better weather for me, around-the-clock services for a night owl, better entertainment and food options, and where my money went far enough that I was pleased with the costs. Any answer you give, that place will suck compared to Vegas on my calculus. If it doesn't for you, go move there, but why I'd want to live in some cold weather state I have no clue, and I have zero interest in hurricane Florida or high-tax earthquake liberal CA, so that leaves Nevada and Arizona as meeting my definitions of good weather, low tax, and right political atmosphere. AZ doesn't have The Strip or no income taxes, so it loses.
What is hilarious is that you think rich people can't be losers? What you implore here is just feel-good nonsense for a good rub of the ego. Las Vegas is a blue collar town either which way you slice it sir, it is not made up of your 'millionaire friends'.
Nevada is slowly becoming a red state, and when it eventually does its political pull on this country will be surrendered. There are hundreds of thousands of people who live in modest houses all over the city, but you depict some utopia where every person is lumped into Summerlin ripe with a Luis Vuitton tote and a cool million bucks in the bank. I urge you to walk into any locals casino, open your eyes and look around at all the folks in wheelchairs with a beer in one hand, cigarette in the other and breathing tubes and oxygen tanks by their side. These people sit around their houses all day hoarding QVC deliveries while waiting for a social security check to come in so they can run to the Suncoast and insert it right into the slot machine. If you don't see this going on everywhere then you're simply blind to it.
Where else is great? Come on, it is America! There are many great places to explore all over this country. Maybe travel more? In the end Vegas fell flat for me since it was not sophisticated or refined enough for my living standards. The vibe of the city is a bit too basic and relaxed, but there are still lots of people living in competition when they have nothing to show for it. I made my money and left, those are some of the reasons.
Here is a little secret for you, it is all a mindset. That's it. Some can find la dolce vita anywhere and I commend them for it. You sound like a free spirit so enjoy your life and don't take things so seriously here. Vegas is a unique place for sure, but not for me and many others like myself and that is fine.
So what? You’re describing a bunch of average people and acting like there’s a magical place where you can avoid them all and meet nothing but Rhodes scholars and patrons of the arts. I’d rather not. I’d much rather have a friend who is great at video games, loves the Knights, and votes conservative even if he’s just a regular Joe working an ordinary job and enjoying his life. There are thousands and thousands and thousands more millionaires in the Valley, though, so I’m sorry if you weren’t meeting your type of people.
I don’t know what is “sophisticated” to you but if it’s operas and theater and art galleries and dress up, you can keep all of that! No thanks to that boring, old school garbage. I’ve traveled tons, thanks though, I’ve seen most of the US outside of many Southern states and parts of the Midwest and I don’t think that’d be a fit for me. I like the West Coast, not only weather but style and attitude, and I don’t like CA. So sorry but no there aren’t many places I would enjoy. If you want quality weather that narrows the search substantially in this country.
You’re free to like whatever you like, but if you’re trying to rag on Vegas you’re doing it to the wrong person. I don’t care about your personal tastes for people, you go find whatever you want, and no I don’t expect to make friends with millionaires nor do I care what’s in your bank account. Just be a good person and that’s a great friend. My best friend is a police officer, it’s his dream job and he loves it. He isn’t rich but he does well for himself and is happy and the best, most loyal friend you could have.
There are two million plus people in Vegas, I’m sure I can meet a few who are great people and friends, and the city itself is as good as it gets.
So what? You’re describing a bunch of average people and acting like there’s a magical place where you can avoid them all and meet nothing but Rhodes scholars and patrons of the arts. I’d rather not. I’d much rather have a friend who is great at video games, loves the Knights, and votes conservative even if he’s just a regular Joe working an ordinary job and enjoying his life. There are thousands and thousands and thousands more millionaires in the Valley, though, so I’m sorry if you weren’t meeting your type of people.
I don’t know what is “sophisticated” to you but if it’s operas and theater and art galleries and dress up, you can keep all of that! No thanks to that boring, old school garbage. I’ve traveled tons, thanks though, I’ve seen most of the US outside of many Southern states and parts of the Midwest and I don’t think that’d be a fit for me. I like the West Coast, not only weather but style and attitude, and I don’t like CA. So sorry but no there aren’t many places I would enjoy. If you want quality weather that narrows the search substantially in this country.
You’re free to like whatever you like, but if you’re trying to rag on Vegas you’re doing it to the wrong person. I don’t care about your personal tastes for people, you go find whatever you want, and no I don’t expect to make friends with millionaires nor do I care what’s in your bank account. Just be a good person and that’s a great friend. My best friend is a police officer, it’s his dream job and he loves it. He isn’t rich but he does well for himself and is happy and the best, most loyal friend you could have.
There are two million plus people in Vegas, I’m sure I can meet a few who are great people and friends, and the city itself is as good as it gets.
Hey now, don't take faceless strangers on the web so personally! I'm just a passerby who came saw and conquered. No reason to make any beef over this. PM me if you need someone to talk to.
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