[CD2017]

Originally Posted by 08grad

hahahahahaha

What's there to disagree with? She qualified her statement with several metrics and the population of the state outside of these two metro areas is minuscule. I'd say it's fairly accurate. Anyone can live anywhere, but demographics seem to agree....

[Lazydriver]

I'm hesitant to vote on this, since 10% sales tax is a bit high, but to be honest, this is a town where you'd make more money doing valet (45-50k/yr) than teaching (30k starting, 45-60k with masters).

If those funds get used to raise teacher salaries and actually attract more than mouthdroolers to becoming teachers, I'm all for it.

We had horrible issues with mold at my old high school. Could use a better maintenance budget, to be honest.

Course, I really wish they'd stop buying stupid gimmicks like "smartboards" and the latest and greatest iPads to put books on.

[RationalExpectations]

The issue in my mind is:

1. How much of the tax increase goes to teacher's compensation? After all, that does not change educational outcomes, does it? We do need to compensate teachers appropriately, but that is a separate issue from improving educational outcomes.

2. How much of the tax increase goes to retiree pensions/retiree healthcare? After all, that does not change educational outcomes, does it? We do need to provide for pensions, retiree healthcare and other related items, but that is a separate issue from improving educational outcomes.

3. How much of the tax increase actually makes it to the classroom where, with intelligent expenditure, can improve educational outcomes?

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At the same time, I'm more than willing to admit I haven't studied the economics of K-12 education in any detail.

[usnftcret]

Originally Posted by lazydriver

i'm hesitant to vote on this, since 10% sales tax is a bit high, but to be honest, this is a town where you'd make more money doing valet (45-50k/yr) than teaching (30k starting, 45-60k with masters).

If those funds get used to raise teacher salaries and actually attract more than mouthdroolers to becoming teachers, i'm all for it.

We had horrible issues with mold at my old high school. Could use a better maintenance budget, to be honest.

Course, i really wish they'd stop buying stupid gimmicks like "smartboards" and the latest and greatest ipads to put books on.

clark county school district
licensed employee salary schedule including benefits
for the school year 2019-2020

column step salary 29.25% premium 1.45% 0.85% 0.05% of offer
column i a $41,863 $ 12,245 $ 7,344 $ 607 $ 356 $ 21 $62,436
column i b 43,247 12,650 7,344 627 368 22 64,258
column i c 44,628 13,054 7,344 647 379 22 66,074
column i d 46,011 13,458 7,344 667 391 23 67,894
column i e 47,394 13,863 7,344 687 403 24 69,715
column i f 48,777 14,267 7,344 707 415 24 71,534
column i g 50,159 14,672 7,344 727 426 25 73,353
column i h 51,541 15,076 7,344 747 438 26 75,172
column i i 52,924 15,480 7,344 767 450 26 76,991
column i j 54,307 15,885 7,344 787 462 27 78,812
column ii a $ 47,394 $ 13,863 $ 7,344 $ 687 $ 403 $ 24 $ 69,715
column ii b 48,777 14,267 7,344 707 415 24 71,534
column ii c 50,159 14,672 7,344 727 426 25 73,353
column ii d 51,541 15,076 7,344 747 438 26 75,172
column ii e 52,924 15,480 7,344 767 450 26 76,991
column ii f 54,307 15,885 7,344 787 462 27 78,812
column ii g 55,689 16,289 7,344 807 473 28 80,630
column ii h 57,072 16,694 7,344 828 485 29 82,452
column ii i 58,455 17,098 7,344 848 497 29 84,271
column ii j 59,837 17,502 7,344 868 509 30 86,090
column iii a $ 52,924 $ 15,480 $ 7,344 $ 767 $ 450 $ 26 $ 76,991
column iii b 54,307 15,885 7,344 787 462 27 78,812
column iii c 55,689 16,289 7,344 807 473 28 80,630
column iii d 57,072 16,694 7,344 828 485 29 82,452
column iii e 58,455 17,098 7,344 848 497 29 84,271
column iii f 59,837 17,502 7,344 868 509 30 86,090
column iii g 61,219 17,907 7,344 888 520 31 87,909
column iii h 62,602 18,311 7,344 908 532 31 89,728
column iii i 63,985 18,716 7,344 928 544 32 91,549
column iii j 65,367 19,120 7,344 948 556 33 93,368
column iv a $ 58,455 $ 17,098 $ 7,344 $ 848 $ 497 $ 29 $ 84,271
column iv b 59,837 17,502 7,344 868 509 30 86,090
column iv c 61,219 17,907 7,344 888 520 31 87,909
column iv d 62,602 18,311 7,344 908 532 31 89,728
column iv e 63,985 18,716 7,344 928 544 32 91,549
column iv f 65,367 19,120 7,344 948 556 33 93,368
column iv g 66,749 19,524 7,344 968 567 33 95,185
column iv h 68,132 19,929 7,344 988 579 34 97,006
column iv i 69,515 20,333 7,344 1,008 591 35 98,826
column iv j 70,897 20,737 7,344 1,028 603 35 100,644
column v a $ 63,985 $ 18,716 $ 7,344 $ 928 $ 544 $ 32 $ 91,549
column v b 65,367 19,120 7,344 948 556 33 93,368
column v c 66,749 19,524 7,344 968 567 33 95,185
column v d 68,132 19,929 7,344 988 579 34 97,006
column v e 69,515 20,333 7,344 1,008 591 35 98,826
column v f 70,897 20,737 7,344 1,028 603 35 100,644
column v g 72,280 21,142 7,344 1,048 614 36 102,464
column v h 73,663 21,546 7,344 1,068 626 37 104,284
column v i 75,045 21,951 7,344 1,088 638 38 106,104
column v j 76,427 22,355 7,344 1,108 650 38 107,922

clark county school district
licensed employee salary schedule including benefits
for the school year 2019-2020

column step salary 29.25% premium 1.45% 0.85% 0.05% of offer
column vi a $ 69,515 $ 20,333 $ 7,344 $ 1,008 $ 591 $ 35 $ 98,826
column vi b 70,897 20,737 7,344 1,028 603 35 100,644
column vi c 72,280 21,142 7,344 1,048 614 36 102,464
column vi d 73,663 21,546 7,344 1,068 626 37 104,284
column vi e 75,045 21,951 7,344 1,088 638 38 106,104
column vi f 76,427 22,355 7,344 1,108 650 38 107,922
column vi g 77,810 22,759 7,344 1,128 661 39 109,741
column vi h 79,193 23,164 7,344 1,148 673 40 111,562
column vi i 80,575 23,568 7,344 1,168 685 40 113,380
column vi j 81,958 23,973 7,344 1,188 697 41 115,201
column vii a $ 75,045 $ 21,951 $ 7,344 $ 1,088 $ 638 $ 38 $ 106,104
column vii b 76,427 22,355 7,344 1,108 650 38 107,922
column vii c 77,810 22,759 7,344 1,128 661 39 109,741
column vii d 79,193 23,164 7,344 1,148 673 40 111,562
column vii e 80,575 23,568 7,344 1,168 685 40 113,380
column vii f 81,958 23,973 7,344 1,188 697 41 115,201
column vii g 83,340 24,377 7,344 1,208 708 42 117,019
column vii h 84,723 24,781 7,344 1,228 720 42 118,838
column vii i 86,105 25,186 7,344 1,249 732 43 120,659
column vii j 87,488 25,590 7,344 1,269 744 44 122,479
column viii a $ 80,575 $ 23,568 $ 7,344 $ 1,168 $ 685 $ 40 $ 113,380
column viii b 81,958 23,973 7,344 1,188 697 41 115,201
column viii c 83,340 24,377 7,344 1,208 708 42 117,019
column viii d 84,723 24,781 7,344 1,228 720 42 118,838
column viii e 86,105 25,186 7,344 1,249 732 43 120,659
column viii f 87,488 25,590 7,344 1,269 744 44 122,479
column viii g 88,870 25,994 7,344 1,289 755 44 124,296
column viii h 90,253 26,399 7,344 1,309 767 45 126,117
column viii i 91,635 26,803 7,344 1,329 779 46 127,936
column viii j 93,018 27,208 7,344 1,349 791 47 129,757

[JCVH]

Originally Posted by longviewJoe

Would be interesting to find out the demographics of Californians moving to Nevada. I think there are many high earners looking to avoid California taxes which would go against your premise. However, I think there also are lower income people looking to find a cheaper place to live and they might be prone to be more Dems who would vote for taxes. I am generalizing and without any data. Would be interesting to know the actual demographics though.

Interesting article in the WSJ today that touches on this (paywall) https://www.wsj.com/articles/so-long...948200?mod=mhp

[08grad]

Originally Posted by usnftcret

clark county school district
licensed employee salary schedule including benefits
for the school year 2019-2020

Holy Boomer. No one makes that much.

In 2015-16 they had a salary schedule that was like every other district, sorted by degree and number of years. That schedule is below.



They decided to transition to a new salary schedule in 2016-17, where the columns were no longer educational attainment, but just arbitrary numbers. They placed all employees at an equivalent salary, furthest column to the left. That schedule is below.



Because 56k was the maximum a teacher could earn on the old salary schedule unless they had a MA+32 and over a decade of experience, when they transitioned almost everyone was put in Column I or Column II, which have maximum salary of 58k.

Teachers then wanted to figure out how to move columns, which CCSD unveiled a ridiculous Professional Growth Program system where even getting a National Board Certification wasn't enough to move a column. But there were teachers that did it anyways, and then CCSD said "sorry, we don't have the funds to move you over".

Steps were frozen at the start of 2017-18 and 2018-19. Then in 2019-20, CCSD came out and said "yeah, our contributions to NV PERS went up, so we're going to reduce your salary."

Teachers said "this is BS", and through unions and their lobbying got legislature to pass a 3% raise for them. Then CCSD said "we don't have the money for those raises", even though the government literally allocated them the money to do this, which is what almost prompted a teacher strike before CCSD finally caved under the Governor's request.

The only teachers who are paid a decent salary in this school district are people who have been here for over a decade and have advanced degrees, or people who moved here from out-of-state and had their salaries matched. Everyone else is below 60k.

[ny789987]

It doesn’t matter what taxes are proposed. Allowing public employees to unionize has already set the train in motion. Expect bonds to be issued, unfounded pension liabilities to go up. They will keep kicking the can down the road until an income tax will become mandated.

[EA]

40k for a part time job is plenty.

I say stop taxing people and start privatizing schools.

[08grad]

Originally Posted by EA

40k for a part time job is plenty.

Apparently not if we have thousands of openings every year.

[CD2017]

Originally Posted by EA

40k for a part time job is plenty.

I say stop taxing people and start privatizing schools.

Originally Posted by 08grad

Apparently not if we have thousands of openings every year.

Exactly 08grad. Point, set, match.

I have strongly considered teaching as a vocation. I worked in corrections for 13 years and I am now in another field. Seeing my partner deal with the CCSD mess the 3 years we've been here has completely turned me off. I see no reason to deal with all the BS.