[Katie the heartbreaker]

Originally Posted by rhuff80

In the United States? Absolutely not. Please cite your source.

I was pretty close at 863.8 deaths per 100,000 population, so .86%. 2,813,503 deaths in a year with a population of 327,000,000.



https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm

Originally Posted by Grumpypotpie

The 2% mortality rate you’re mentioning is only going to be that low if our health system doesn’t get inundated by sick people. Italy has a mortality rate over 8% right now. All accounts have our infection rate tracking very similarly to theirs. Shutting everything down sucks for all of us, but it’s totally necessary and hopefully everyone will be smart enough to practice social distancing.

We will have to watch what happens here as our health system is run differently than Italy's. Italy has publicly stated that if you are elderly, they will not treat you and let you die. That would raise the death rate quite substantially.

[JonathanLB]

Originally Posted by WestieJeff

This is exactly why I believe the spread will be worse in the US than in Italy.

The US has too many "this is a free country, I do what I want" types.

Hopefully they can all just be interacting with each other.

That depends honestly. I’m that type normally speaking, but I like being home and while I’m thoroughly annoyed by the whole thing, we are in it together and I don’t have any problem just staying home and making the best of things. Hopefully others are the same. My heart just goes out to the people who are in tough economic situations and through no fault of their own, things are getting worse for them.

[SoHoVe]

Originally Posted by nickydim

The one advantage we have over China and Italy for comparison is the much lower rate of smokers we have. The death tolls in those countries are so high because of their wide spread smoking, it's why pneumonia is the killer here. China, Europe, middle east are the top % countries for smoking.

I'm fairly certain the rates of morbid obesity and opioid addiction in the US will probably erase any precieved advantage in this respect.

[clutchcargo777]

Originally Posted by Katie the heartbreaker

https://m.lasvegassun.com/news/2020/...-of-casinos-n/


Downright stupidity! Meanwhile, the virus will continue to spread in all the "essential" businesses just the same. I said in the very beginning that doing nothing was better than closing everything and having an economic collapse which will kill many more people than the virus ever could. However, I do not blame Sisolak for this as I am sure the federal government ordered him to do so.


My first post on 2-29 regarding the coronavirus. Since this post we have had ONE DEATH! The guy was over 60 and had major health problems before getting the virus. Close the whole damn city down over one death???? My premise of this being a cover for an economic collapse is looking to be more and more correct as time passes.

I'm re-posting what someone on the politics board posted. It makes a lot of sense:

The thing about these statistics is you won't know the true mortality rate for some time.

In the US we've had 155 deaths out of 9477 cases https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

So yeah, that's only 1.6%.

However, of those 9477, 9214 are considered active cases. A case can be resolved in two ways: the person recovers, or dies.
In the US we have 108 cases recovered.

So the death rate among resolved cases is 155 / (155+108) = 59%

[timothyaw]

Originally Posted by lvmensch

... Getting good at elbow knocks.

I don't even do those, as we're supposed to sneeze into the inside of the elbow (or near there). Too close to me. So I'll just nod my head

[CD2017]

Originally Posted by Katie the heartbreaker

I was pretty close at 863.8 deaths per 100,000 population, so .86%. 2,813,503 deaths in a year with a population of 327,000,000.



https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm





We will have to watch what happens here as our health system is run differently than Italy's. Italy has publicly stated that if you are elderly, they will not treat you and let you die. That would raise the death rate quite substantially.

This will happen in the US as well if we are overwhelmed. These conversations have already happened. Obviously as the ethics of care is a part of being in health care, but specifically, these conversations have been discussed again and are fluid.

[orca17]

Originally Posted by Katie the heartbreaker

Italy has publicly stated that if you are elderly, they will not treat you and let you die.

That is more a function of a system that is overwhelmed with the number of cases than a general policy.

I hope that come this November, voters remember that our President wrote this off as a hoax concocted by the opposing party instead of acting. This was less than three weeks ago.

[clutchcargo777]

Originally Posted by orca17

That is more a function of a system that is overwhelmed with the number of cases than a general policy.

I hope that come this November, voters remember that our President wrote this off as a hoax concocted by the opposing party instead of acting. This was less than three weeks ago.

Gotta make everything about politics don't ya. Never let a crisis go to waste.

[CD2017]

Originally Posted by clutchcargo777

Gotta make everything about politics don't ya. Never let a crisis go to waste.

Well, should we reward incompetence?

Whatever; Americans have a short memory. For all things. We will blissfully roll into the next economic and political crisis without a thought.

[orca17]

Originally Posted by clutchcargo777

Gotta make everything about politics don't ya. Never let a crisis go to waste.

The point is that earlier action could have mitigated some of this. It was trivialized by the leader of the free world.