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Old 03-28-2020, 03:40 PM
 
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That's an odd response, if I were you I would have countered with evidence of the "tinderbox" that you warned us about.
I would have countered my tinderbox argument with examples on par with other major cities like NY and LA.

 
Old 03-28-2020, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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LOL I don't listen to Alex Jones or read Qanon, either. I love how there are always so many attempts on here to discredit me as some type of right wing extremist or conspiracy nut.

So their study, which seems pretty light on the details, pegs the disease to pangolins sold in the wet market? Where, exactly did said pangolins come from?

TBH, sounds like a cover story to me. Just like the accusations from China that the US somehow brought the virus to China during the army games.

For every article you can post claiming the virus is not engineered, I can probably post one claiming that it is. I find it interesting that all of the universities releasing these "studies" claiming the virus is a natural occurrence are all the extreme-leftwing commie-socialist institutions in California.

Maybe we should take a look at what National Taiwan University thinks:

"“Researchers likely synthesized the Covid-19, although more studies are needed to be certain,” NTU professor Fang Chi-tai told a forum on disease control and prevention in Taipei held by the Taiwan Public Health Association earlier this month.

During his presentation, Fang outlined several hypotheses raised by Taiwanese and overseas researchers, including the probability that the virus was “man-made” and was leaked from the Wuhan Institute of Virology due to gross mismanagement.

Fang said the Wuhan facility’s biosafety level-4 laboratory was used to store, handle and research samples of SARS, Ebola and other deadly infectious viruses.

“Given China’s poor track record of lab safety management, including a leakage of the SARS virus at a state lab in 2004, it is possible that a virus escaped from the Wuhan facility and resulted in the epidemic,” Fang was quoted by Taiwan’s Central News Agency and the Taipei Times as saying.

He added that analyses of the Covid-19 virus have shown that it had a 96% genetic similarity with an RaTG13 bat virus also stored at the institute, and that the Covid-19 could be “manufactured” by modifying the RaTG13 virus. "


https://asiatimes.com/2020/02/covid-...aiwan-scholar/
Boy does your biases run deep.

How about from Trump's NIH?

https://directorsblog.nih.gov/2020/0...n-of-covid-19/

Our perhaps your view is Trump has sold out to the progressive left?

And do you actually believe Scripps and Tulane are leftist schools? Really? So anyone who publishes anything you do not agree with is a leftist? How convenient.
 
Old 03-28-2020, 03:52 PM
 
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Source? have read reports of Chinese labs selling used animals to wet markets but none that specified it was going on next to the bio lab. If it was the Chinese should organize a lynch mob.
See attached map screenshot.
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Old 03-28-2020, 03:54 PM
 
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There are lots of current links saying a constructed virus has been ruled out...

https://www.modernhealthcare.com/saf...ic-study-finds

And there are a dozen others if you wish to look.
They all reference the same California studies. Those studies aren't peer reviewed, either.
 
Old 03-28-2020, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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See attached map screenshot.
That says the market is not next door to the lab but is some distance away. That would suggest accidental release is very unlikely.

And that has no relevance to the question.
 
Old 03-28-2020, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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They all reference the same California studies. Those studies aren't peer reviewed, either.
Done by two major medical institutions one of which is over a thousand miles from California. So geography is another of the things not in your skill set.
 
Old 03-28-2020, 04:03 PM
 
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Boy does your biases run deep.

How about from Trump's NIH?

https://directorsblog.nih.gov/2020/0...n-of-covid-19/

Our perhaps your view is Trump has sold out to the progressive left?

And do you actually believe Scripps and Tulane are leftist schools? Really? So anyone who publishes anything you do not agree with is a leftist? How convenient.
So, another blog post referencing the same study?

The results of that study are hardly conclusive. They make a lot of assumptions about the viral origins that cannot possibly be confirmed. Basically, its purely conjecture.

So, I dunno... what do you think Mensch? 75 years of evolution after making the jump from bats/pangolins to humans to result in an outbreak that first appears now, or virus leaked from virology lab in Wuhan conveniently located directly across the river from the wet maket? You know, the same lab that buys test animals from said virology institution and resells them as food?

I'm sorry dude, but where there is smoke, there is fire.
 
Old 03-28-2020, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Aliante
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Like I said they'd rather believe in the tin foil hat theory even though it's been countlessly disproven. It's not a bioweapon equid0x. That stuff only works in the movies.
 
Old 03-28-2020, 04:12 PM
 
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That says the market is not next door to the lab but is some distance away. That would suggest accidental release is very unlikely.

And that has no relevance to the question.
The "as the crow flies" distance is something like 9 miles. As previously stated, it is already known that this lab was selling specimens to the wet market that were being resold as food. That's really not even a secret.

Several other studies show a link to this virus and bats. Its well known that in China, they eat bats live or cook them in bat soup. Perhaps someone was sold undercooked bat soup at the wuhan hunan seafood market?
 
Old 03-28-2020, 04:13 PM
 
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Like I said they'd rather believe in the tin foil hat theory even though it's been countlessly disproven. It's not a bioweapon equid0x. That stuff only works in the movies.
The thing is, its hardly been disproven. There is simply an echo chamber of blogs and slanted "news" sources all reiterating and citing the same non-peer-reviewed study.
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