[equid0x]

Originally Posted by OmegaSupreme

Yes Dems around the world have shut entire countries down so trump can lose. Smh with that logic.

No. They shut down the US to do that. The US Democratic party has been infiltrated by communists.

The worldwide push is for one world government.

Take a good hard look at what was going on in Germany directly prior to the National Socialist party taking power.

[equid0x]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

I don't know how to say this politely but in regards to this subject you don't know what you are talking about.

Okay, so more trolling or are you going to back up your statement with facts?

[equid0x]

Originally Posted by simply1

I don’t think you understand the number you’re citing.

“ CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 39 million flu illnesses, 400,000 hospitalizations and 24,000 deaths from flu.”

I don't think you understand what you're citing.

"P&I Mortality

The percentage of deaths attributed to pneumonia and influenza is 8.2%, above the epidemic threshold of 7.2%."

It's right there plain as day on the CDC site.

[SusVelo]

Originally Posted by equid0x

I don't think you understand what you're citing.

"P&I Mortality

The percentage of deaths attributed to pneumonia and influenza is 8.2%, above the epidemic threshold of 7.2%."

It's right there plain as day on the CDC site.

Yes, I know. What do you think the same covid rate would be at 39 million infections? Where did you get 2.4% from?

Oh and..
“ The percent of deaths associated with pneumonia and influenza is above the epidemic threshold. The increase is due to an increase in pneumonia deaths rather than influenza deaths and may be associated with COVID-19.”

[RationalExpectations]

Originally Posted by equid0x

The trouble is, virii are constantly mutating.

I thought "virus" is the plural form while "virion" is the singular.

[equid0x]

Originally Posted by simply1

Yes, I know. What do you think the same covid rate would be at 39 million infections? Where did you get 2.4% from?

Oh and..
“ The percent of deaths associated with pneumonia and influenza is above the epidemic threshold. The increase is due to an increase in pneumonia deaths rather than influenza deaths and may be associated with COVID-19.”

I took the latest numbers from the ARCGIS site and performed basic division.

The overall rate will not necessarily increase with more infections .

However, I think the question people should be asking themselves is why the government is going full retard over this virus, but has done nothing of the sort for standard influenza, even though CDC's own criteria label it an "epidemic."

Remember what I said about it being a bioweapon from Wuhan? The trolls came out hardcore to discredit me? Well take a look at this and ask yourself why our Liberal media hasn't covered it:

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harva...-china-related

[equid0x]

Originally Posted by RationalExpectations

I thought "virus" is the plural form while "virion" is the singular.

Latin has no plural form of the word "virus."

Virii and viruses are both in common usage although the scientific community seems to lean towards the use of the term viruses these days.

[SusVelo]

Originally Posted by equid0x

I took the latest numbers from the ARCGIS site and performed basic division.

The overall rate will not necessarily increase with more infections .

However, I think the question people should be asking themselves is why the government is going full retard over this virus, but has done nothing of the sort for standard influenza, even though CDC's own criteria label it an "epidemic."

Remember what I said about it being a bioweapon from Wuhan? The trolls came out hardcore to discredit me? Well take a look at this and ask yourself why our Liberal media hasn't covered it:

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harva...-china-related

Like I said, you don't understand the information you are using.

You are taking the P&I mortality rate as stated in your source(percentage of deaths from P&I) and comparing it to the mortality rate of Coronavirus, those who get coronavirus and die. They are NOT the same. I mean do the math, 39 million people estimated to have had Influenza and 24,000 died. That's what you need to compare the 2.4% mortality rate to.

8.2% is the percent of deaths from P&I. If more people die from P&I, then of course the percentage goes up. Because this is a percent of all deaths. Not the percentage of people who are expected to die if they get influenza.

2 different statistics.

[Katie the heartbreaker]

Originally Posted by Katie the heartbreaker

The crash has nothing to do with the virus, and the virus is not the cause of the crash. It is the everything bubble that is crashing. The virus is nothing more than a cover, a scapegoat, to blame when all of this was going to happen anyways. It is a way to shift the blame so that it does not go on the true culprit, the central banks. I had bought the book below 2 years ago so I knew in advance this was coming. I always wondered how the crash would happen without the central banks being blamed. Now I know! I wish I could find it as I would give it to you to read.

https://www.amazon.com/Everything-Bu.../dp/B0794RLM8R

Originally Posted by RationalExpectations

Only in Barnes and Noble.

In the Fiction aisle.

Originally Posted by RationalExpectations

I don't expect to change your mind on this.

I'll just say I wish you well, Katie. I really do.

I was doing some brainstorming today and realized something I did not think of earlier. It was even all over the mainstream media last year that we were heading into recession very soon. The alarm bells were going off well before this virus ever hit. You chose not to listen to it. I know the reason too, which is because you are a Trump supporter. Both the democrats and the libertarians, who can both see through Trump's lies, saw it coming from a mile away.

Let us go back to Jul 22, 2019. Elizabeth Warren came out with "The Coming Economic Crash — And How to Stop It." Here is irrefutable proof that we had a bad economy before the virus.

When I look at the economy today, I see a lot to worry about again. I see a manufacturing sector in recession. I see a precarious economy that is built on debt — both household debt and corporate debt — and that is vulnerable to shocks. And I see a number of serious shocks on the horizon that could cause our economy’s shaky foundation to crumble.

The country’s economic foundation is fragile. A single shock could bring it all down. And the Trump Administration’s reckless behavior is increasing the odds of just such a shock.

The financial markets agree that there is a serious risk of downturn in the near future. The U.S. Treasury yield curve — a barometer for market confidence — normally slopes upwards because investors demand higher yields for bonds with longer maturities. But this March, it inverted for the first time since 2007, signaling that investors are so worried that things are going to get worse that they’d rather lock in lower rates for the future today than risk long-term rates going even lower. The curve has inverted before each and every recession in the past half century — with only one false signal.

Duh, isn't that what I too was saying last year? Your response to me was "irrelevant."

And experts agree. In a recent survey of nearly 300 business economists, three-quarters expect a recession by the end of 2021 — with more than half thinking it’ll come by the end of 2020.

Now me 9-22-2019

Originally Posted by Katie the heartbreaker

I think it is time to just let this thread die as everything that needs to be said has already been said. The summary is.


Conservatives think the recession will not start until after 2024.


My prediction is it will start before the end of 2021.



Now all we need to do it wait.

I swear I never read this article until today. I was trying to find some mainstream articles from last year that warned of this happening. I did this to show that all the signs were there that an economic crash was coming well before the crash. I do agree that the debate between us is over and wish you well too. Anyone who reads this thread can make their own conclusion on who was right and who was wrong.

[equid0x]

Originally Posted by simply1

Like I said, you don't understand the information you are using.

You are taking the P&I mortality rate as stated in your source(percentage of deaths from P&I) and comparing it to the mortality rate of Coronavirus, those who get coronavirus and die. They are NOT the same. I mean do the math, 39 million people estimated to have had Influenza and 24,000 died. That's what you need to compare the 2.4% mortality rate to.

8.2% is the percent of deaths from P&I. If more people die from P&I, then of course the percentage goes up. Because this is a percent of all deaths. Not the percentage of people who are expected to die if they get influenza.

2 different statistics.

No, they are the same state. Coronavirus Deaths Are part of that stat. What you're missing though is that the stat isn't necessarily out of line from any other year of pandemic flu.

The reason it's useless to shut everything down is that this thing is endemic, now It's going to be here this year, next year, and the year after that just like SARS and H1N1.

Unless we plan on keeping people in their homes indefinitely, there is no stopping this thing now.