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View Poll Results: Do you support the closure of non-essential businesses in Las Vegas for COVID-19?
Yes 35 60.34%
No 23 39.66%
Voters: 58. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-09-2020, 01:15 PM
EA
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Corona is a mild threat at best.

This isn't a month or 2 of no income
This is going to be several months to a year of low economic activity.
It's not a slow month as you'd expect and be prepared for.
This is a total shut down of many businesses. This is trillions of dollars of loss.
This is going to be a massive problem over the next few months. The dominos are just now starting to wobble. When they actually start falling it's going to be thunderous and devastating.
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Old 04-09-2020, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Corona is a mild threat at best.

This isn't a month or 2 of no income
This is going to be several months to a year of low economic activity.
It's not a slow month as you'd expect and be prepared for.
This is a total shut down of many businesses. This is trillions of dollars of loss.
This is going to be a massive problem over the next few months. The dominos are just now starting to wobble. When they actually start falling it's going to be thunderous and devastating.
And that of course was inevitable. The Strip was closing down no matter what Sisolak or the government said. US airline passengers are down to minuscule numbers...smaller than any month since the jets began to fly.

At the moment NV is doing about twice as well as the US average on CV deaths. And CA is doing very well also. So the local and prime feeder market are doing better than most of the USA.

So it would appear NV and CA did the right thing.
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Old 04-09-2020, 01:28 PM
 
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Again, the models were wrong, just like every model. Pick one, Global Warming? Models were wrong yet drive policy decisions. COVID? Wrong. Drives destruction of the entire economy in order to “save” a few. Good job Sisolak. You did what Bernie and the socialists all wanted, the entire population in prison and government control of all that remains.
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Old 04-09-2020, 01:31 PM
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Location: Las Vegas
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Yeah, initially people got scared and stayed home. Then they startes going back out again. Without sissylack stepping in businesses would have had a slow month nit dead months. People would have started going back out. When this first hit the streets were empty. After a couple weeks in and streets were full again. People have been out and about like crazy. They're just not allowed to work certain jobs or go to certain businesses.
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Old 04-09-2020, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Again, the models were wrong, just like every model. Pick one, Global Warming? Models were wrong yet drive policy decisions. COVID? Wrong. Drives destruction of the entire economy in order to “save” a few. Good job Sisolak. You did what Bernie and the socialists all wanted, the entire population in prison and government control of all that remains.
Has nothing to do with models. NV and CA death rates are simply well below the US average. All things being equal you would expect them to be above the US averages.
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Old 04-09-2020, 01:50 PM
 
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Has nothing to do with models. NV and CA death rates are simply well below the US average. All things being equal you would expect them to be above the US averages.

I would not expect that at all. We have lower population density relative to East Coast cities. I also typically think of people on the West Coast being healthier on average than people on the East Coast (i.e., healthier lifestyle habits and less stress).
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Old 04-09-2020, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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I would not expect that at all. We have lower population density relative to East Coast cities. I also typically think of people on the West Coast being healthier on average than people on the East Coast (i.e., healthier lifestyle habits and less stress).
You ever been on the San Diego Freeway during the morning or evening rush hour? The population of coastal CA is large and dense. Higher than most mid west and eastern cities other than perhaps NYC and a couple of others. And LA and LV both have huge numbers of visitors. Well high on the US list. And actually CA is doing better than NV though both are well below the use average for CV deaths.

And the vulnerable to CV are the mature. And I see no reason why that group would be significantly different between coasts. I suspect there may well be an older average age in the east but not big enough to make any large difference.
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Old 04-09-2020, 02:01 PM
 
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It's also the height of arrogance for an individual business owner to think their bills getting paid is essential. Big picture guys.
Hahaha the big picture is you won't have any businesses to go back to if this keeps up.
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Old 04-09-2020, 02:02 PM
 
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I actually have read it and have been a business owner and have right leaning politics. Doesn't matter. A month or so without income should not destroy any one or any business. If it does, you were on borrowed time for sure. If it wasn't a virus, it could be any number of things that would bring you down. If 2008 didn't wake you up to restructuring things, I doubt this will either.



I've said before that this can all be boiled down to whether you think the virus is a serious threat or not. If you do, then what we are doing is the right thing. If you do not, then it's madness. Lets cut the window dressing and simplify the poll. Do you think it's a serious threat or not?

I don't necessarily disagree with your statement that a month without income should not destroy an individual or corporation financially. Unfortunately, that is not the world the Federal Reserve and our government have created over the last couple of decades. While this does not concern me personally from a financial standpoint, I do care about how it affects others financially since what happens to tens of millions of people who are ruined financially will have a profound effect on the society in which we will be living.
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Old 04-09-2020, 02:03 PM
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Location: Las Vegas
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I can take a crowded bus to Walmart, walk down crowded aisles to buy food and that's safe.
But if I drive my car to walmart to buy clothes I'll catch corona and infect the whole country.

If I take the crowded subway to the crowded grocery store to buy milk I'll be safe.

If I take my motorcycle to a giant national park to hike alone far from other people, I'll catch corona and infect the whole country.

If a celebrity dies, it takes weeks for an autopsy to tell us how they died.

When 16,000 people die in a couple months, we get autopsy results instantly and know exactly how they died.

This is cognitive dissonance. Americans are dumb.
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