[lvmensch]

Originally Posted by ND_Irish

Did you actually look at the Stanford study? The prevalence of cases here and everywhere else is likely understated severely, and you are being disingenuous by implying that the fatality rate is anywhere close to what you claim given that the denominator is certainly far too low of a number.

And you of course are simply changing the definition of the death rate. It right along has been the deaths per the number of proven cases. So don't try to eliminate the problem semantically. And basically the big deal is if you have it sufficient to require hospitalization there is a good chance you have run out of luck.

One could also have the discussion using deaths per the population. Give a vastly smaller number. But convert that number into dead bodies and it is quite a pile.

And in all of this we need to be concerned about what might be not what is. We have taken a number of steps to lessen the impact and some success is apparent. We have some places that have done much less. Let us see how they turn out.

[equid0x]

Originally Posted by ND_Irish

By the way, why do you have such an interest in Nevada and Las Vegas given your profile lists Vancouver, Washington as your location? Did you just move here recently?

Isn't it funny how many "outsiders" seem to take such a keen interest in Las Vegas politics? I've spent time reading around plenty of other boards on City Data and I've never seen this behavior anywhere else than here.

That's not the first account posting here from Vancouver, Washington, either.

[SusVelo]

Originally Posted by equid0x

Isn't it funny how many "outsiders" seem to take such a keen interest in Las Vegas politics? I've spent time reading around plenty of other boards on City Data and I've never seen this behavior anywhere else than here.

That's not the first account posting here from Vancouver, Washington, either.

Are you suggesting I have another account? Where’s the other post from Vancouver?

[ChrisMT]

City Data Forum is used by people who are looking to move to a new locale to gather local information.

I thought that was the main purpose of the forum?

[SusVelo]

Originally Posted by ChrisMT

City Data Forum is used by people who are looking to move to a new locale to gather local information.

I thought that was the main purpose of the forum?

Shh they’re busy gatekeeping their little fiefdom.

[Drkness]

Originally Posted by ND_Irish

I'm a people over money person as well; however, that means I look at the total costs to all people as well as what the data says about what people are most impacted by this virus. I have posted that data numerous times here.

How do you know there will be no business? There are many local businesses which cater to local residents which will have business, but the likelihood of those businesses returning diminishes each day they stay closed due to potential loss of employees and continued loss of income by their customers.

The mayor is not dumb; she is looking at history and the statistics which do not justify a total lockdown of society. If you want to talk about dumb, watch the governor's press conference last night. How can you not have definitive benchmarks and a plan after over a month of shutting down a state? What kind of "experts" is he relying on? Clearly, they are not very good ones if he has no benchmarks and no plan. Perhaps, we will see one next week! His apparent inability to see the big picture and his demeanor inspire no confidence in his leadership. The bottom line is that we all have a horse in the race. If society and the economy are irreparably damaged by a total lockdown with no end in sight, the consequences will be far more severe than those from the last recession.

What data are you looking at?

I'm seeing a combination of the live CDC feed: https://ncov2019.live/data
Our latest unemployment numbers: https://www.google.com/publicdata/ex...l=en&ind=false
Also seeing that DETR has been receiving 90k unemployment claims a week on average, Tells me all i need to know.

Then for comparables we have NYC with 8m people vs Vegas with under 700k, while culturally and geographically we're different the risk is even more in a town with a smaller population specially when it lives off tourism. Unemployment is now affecting the tech industry despite working from home, That has nothing to do with 'stay at home orders' ie; IT, Programmers, Support can all do their jobs from home but why else would the companies be actively laying people off? Seems like 2008 all over again.

I may not like the governor but at-least he's taking precautions by reaching out to health experts and gathering a consensus before reaching a conclusion, As it should be. I don't agree with an indefinite shelter-in-place but i also don't agree with opening up the city and getting 'back to business', There should be a transition period as we still don't know nearly enough about this virus; It wasn't even 2-weeks ago that we found out 'pink eye' was one of the main symptoms in Corona, that's how little we know.

Ms. Goodman is proposing opening up the city with no rules in place, No mandatory PPE for a period of time? No social distance orders? No fixed business hours? That's a recipe for disaster, In the long-run the ones who will end-up getting hurt are the working class. Lastly to answer your question about businesses not meeting profits, Its simple mathematics; a rise in unemployment filings means less people working which in turn means less money to spend.

[RecentlyRetired]

Yes, Let's open up all our resort hotels and have all those people who want to get away from New York City come here and spread the virus throughout the Las Vegas area!

[NoMoreRJ]

Originally Posted by equid0x

Life always finds a way.

If you want to stay locked in your house indefinitely, that's your prerogative.

I'm going to live my life and I'm not going to let seasonal flu and a bunch of whiney, schizo from the heavy drug usage ex-hippies keep me from doing that.

That bold part above clearly shows you have not been paying attention to Trump's smartest doctor. It's not a seasonal flu, it's a Virus to the level of a Pandemic.

I'm walking away from discussing this topic with you since you refuse to even listen to experts in the field. This must be what's it's like to argue with flat earthers. Just like I can't convince a flat Earther that the world is not flat just because s(he) hasn't been in space to see the planet's shape.

[equid0x]

Originally Posted by ChrisMT

City Data Forum is used by people who are looking to move to a new locale to gather local information.

I thought that was the main purpose of the forum?

It is.

Is posting to the Vegas forum from another locale with the sole goal of trolling conservative posters what you would consider "gathering information for a move to a new locale?"

Not specifically directed at you, but I feel that the pattern of behavior of certain posters here is very, very clear.

[equid0x]

Originally Posted by simply1

Shh they’re busy gatekeeping their little fiefdom.

Nobody is gatekeeping. You're being called out on your bullsh*t.