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Old 07-17-2020, 11:17 PM
 
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What resources are being exhausted on a "pretty significant scale"? Sources?

The SNHD dashboard indicates that as of yesterday, the 7-day moving average for the percentage of Emergency Department visits potentially related to COVID was down to 7.0% from 8.2% last week.

The Nevada Hospital Association shows a net increase of 23 new COVID patients from July 12 to July 13, but there was a decrease of 7 patients utilizing ICU rooms. Overall, as of July 13th, 20% of all Clark County hospital beds are empty, 12% of ICU beds are empty, and 57% of ventilators are not being used. The number of cases identified as suspected COVID which were admitted to the hospital increased by 4 from July 12 to July 13.
The 12% icu beds available sound like a safe margin of safety. But according to this US news article, the entire Clark county has only 535 icu beds. So 12% is only about 64 available. A few day of surge of covid in the wrong age group can fill up those icu beds easy. The saving grace of the recent surge of covid is the low hospitalization and death count because it is mostly the young one that are infected. There is no telling when those young virus carriers pass the virus to their family and older people that they get in touch with.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...und-the-nation
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Old 07-18-2020, 10:07 AM
 
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The 12% icu beds available sound like a safe margin of safety. But according to this US news article, the entire Clark county has only 535 icu beds. So 12% is only about 64 available. A few day of surge of covid in the wrong age group can fill up those icu beds easy. The saving grace of the recent surge of covid is the low hospitalization and death count because it is mostly the young one that are infected. There is no telling when those young virus carriers pass the virus to their family and older people that they get in touch with.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...und-the-nation
The following hyperlink suggests a few more ICU beds available in Clark County (659 staffed-583 occupied=76 available). It seems the number of ICU beds is a bit fluid, as there is a concept of surge capacity. And, of course, it also depends on availability of scarce resources such as ICU nurses - one can imagine a very-low-probability catastrophic event where many ICU nurses become infected and hence cannot work; overnight that would shrink the number of staffed ICU beds. The good news is mechanical life support ventilators do not appear to be a scarce resource (recall in the early days of the pandemic, they were such a scarce resource that President Trump invoked the Defense Production Act to compel General Motors to manufacture them.)

https://nvha.net/wp-content/uploads/16-July-Charts.pdf

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Old 07-18-2020, 12:23 PM
 
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The following hyperlink suggests a few more ICU beds available in Clark County (659 staffed-583 occupied=76 available). It seems the number of ICU beds is a bit fluid, as there is a concept of surge capacity. And, of course, it also depends on availability of scarce resources such as ICU nurses - one can imagine a very-low-probability catastrophic event where many ICU nurses become infected and hence cannot work; overnight that would shrink the number of staffed ICU beds. The good news is mechanical life support ventilators do not appear to be a scarce resource (recall in the early days of the pandemic, they were such a scarce resource that President Trump invoked the Defense Production Act to compel General Motors to manufacture them.)

https://nvha.net/wp-content/uploads/16-July-Charts.pdf
I wonder how much of the ventilator capacity is from them determining it’s pretty detrimental to have to put a person in a ventilator.
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Old 07-18-2020, 04:34 PM
 
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Default Yahoo news

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Old 07-18-2020, 05:31 PM
 
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“I would say in the last month we’ve been completely overwhelmed with COVID-19 patients and our hospital is running out of space,” one Las Vegas emergency room doctor, who wished to remain anonymous for fear of professional retaliation, told The Daily Beast on Friday
That is one way to make up fake news, quote a non-existent source that is 'anonymous' for a preposterous reason.
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Old 07-18-2020, 05:53 PM
 
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That is one way to make up fake news, quote a non-existent source that is 'anonymous' for a preposterous reason.
Whistle blowers have certainly been fired.


Remember this guy?


https://www.king5.com/article/news/h...5-57e425fcae6f
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Old 07-18-2020, 07:12 PM
 
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The following hyperlink suggests a few more ICU beds available in Clark County (659 staffed-583 occupied=76 available). It seems the number of ICU beds is a bit fluid, as there is a concept of surge capacity. And, of course, it also depends on availability of scarce resources such as ICU nurses - one can imagine a very-low-probability catastrophic event where many ICU nurses become infected and hence cannot work; overnight that would shrink the number of staffed ICU beds. The good news is mechanical life support ventilators do not appear to be a scarce resource (recall in the early days of the pandemic, they were such a scarce resource that President Trump invoked the Defense Production Act to compel General Motors to manufacture them.)

https://nvha.net/wp-content/uploads/16-July-Charts.pdf
27% of all staffed beds in Clark County are empty. 50% of all ventilators in Clark County are not being used. Approximately 37% of all ICU beds are being used by suspected or confirmed COVID patients. Suspected and confirmed COVID patients in Clark County hospitals are down 39 from the prior day with an additional 38 patients defined as medically cleared but awaiting acceptance at a skilled nursing facility or other acceptable facility.

New positive cases are down from 1,315 reported on Thursday to 1,115 today. Since SNHD redistributes cases to a prior date such as date of onset of symptoms, diagnosis, or collection of specimen, it appears so far that the peak number of cases was on July 8th per the SNHD dashboard graph; 1,272 were attributed to that day.
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Old 07-19-2020, 09:12 AM
 
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Whistle blowers have certainly been fired.


Remember this guy?


https://www.king5.com/article/news/h...5-57e425fcae6f
Remember an article that was published in Bellingham Washington about a lawsuit that had not yet been filed? Of course not. Have you forgotten that this is the Las Vegas forum? We can not be certain that anything the doctor said was true. All we know is that he wants money. It is naive to believe everything you read.
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Old 07-19-2020, 10:15 AM
 
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Remember an article that was published in Bellingham Washington about a lawsuit that had not yet been filed? Of course not. Have you forgotten that this is the Las Vegas forum? We can not be certain that anything the doctor said was true. All we know is that he wants money. It is naive to believe everything you read.
You said “ preposterous reason”. Clearly it’s not a preposterous reason for this doctor to fear he might be fired. Does that make his story true? No, that’s a straw man you’re propping up and I didn’t say that. Just a very simple exercise to show it’s not “preposterousl”.
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Old 07-19-2020, 11:26 AM
 
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Whistle blowers have certainly been fired.


Remember this guy?
Your post about a whistle blower (according to you) who was certainly fired.
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