[airics]

Originally Posted by strato58

Yes, I was being sarcastic but with little success. I firmly believe in proper ID for voting. Its just good common sense. You need ID for every other thing but not for voting? Bad idea.

ironically, will smith's movie company pulled out of Georgia for filming. Since its rated R, you would need an id to prove your age to see the movie... guess that's ok, but id is not ok for voting...

[airics]

Originally Posted by Mike from back east

They go to the pinball museum. . .

exactly.... see Las Vegas DOES have a museum and there's ART on the machines....

[tijlover]

Originally Posted by RationalExpectations

Since you do not live here, why do you care?

Regardless, we don't need to "keep up with the Joneses" by wasting money on a useless art museum. I'd rather the money go to more important things like widening freeways and securing more water rights.

I care about the culturally-deprived students in Las Vegas! For an art trip, they need to be bussed all the way to L.A.

This post is a reminder of why I left the conservative city of Las Vegas, still mired in the thinking of the 1960's. This is a city (can you even all it that?) that is never, ever, ever going to change.

The Bernie-loving socialist-thinking Millennials are making inroads all across the country, on a city, county, state level and let's hope there's more Tick Segerblom's, eventually, making their way to Carson City and the Clark County Commission and Las Vegas City Council chambers. It's going to happen, the clock is ticking away!

In Chicago there's now 10 Bernie-crats on the city council. More to come!

[ChrisKLAS]

Originally Posted by tijlover

In Chicago there's now 10 Bernie-crats on the city council. More to come!

The latest news out of Chicago is that the city braintrust has deduced that it's "racist" to build low income housing in low income areas, so the city is taking hundreds of millions of dollars from a federal grant and pledging it towards building upwards of 5,000 new low income housing units (i.e. projects) in affluent areas around the city.

That kind of neanderthal thinking can stay in Chicago.

[Merrily Gather]

Bernie loving democratic socialist here. We're for well-regulated capitalism and a large social safety net. We've only been saying it since 2016, 5 years now.

I don't care about getting a museum. I want the death penalty abolished. It looked like it passed. It appears we're getting pot lounges as that also passed.

Converting traffic tickets to civil offenses and banning ticket and arrest quotas is up next I think according to the article.

https://www.nevadaappeal.com/news/20...tBrwaPWWBHwUPc

Thanks for the OP links. I've emailed the heck out of them. Even emailed the President. Never written a President before.

[Mike from back east]

Originally Posted by Merry Lee Gather

Bernie loving democratic socialist here. We're for well-regulated capitalism and a large social safety net. We've only been saying it since 2016, 5 years now. ...

Finland has managed to have high taxes, a strong safety net AND still be a capitalist paradise. I hope people can read this story in the NY Times about a couple who left NYC and found Finland a dream come true.

Key excerpt:

"We’ve now been living in Finland for more than a year. The difference between our lives here and in the States has been tremendous, but perhaps not in the way many Americans might imagine. What we’ve experienced is an increase in personal freedom. Our lives are just much more manageable. To be sure, our days are still full of challenges — raising a child, helping elderly parents, juggling the demands of daily logistics and work.

But in Finland, we are automatically covered, no matter what, by taxpayer-funded universal health care that equals the United States’ in quality (despite the misleading claims you hear to the contrary), all without piles of confusing paperwork or haggling over huge bills. Our child attends a fabulous, highly professional and ethnically diverse public day-care center that amazes us with its enrichment activities and professionalism. The price? About $300 a month — the maximum for public day care, because in Finland day-care fees are subsidized for all families."

[TxCaNv]

^ A lot of things are possible when the government takes 57% of your money in personal income taxes.

[Dom Cobb]

Originally Posted by TxCaNv

^ A lot of things are possible when the government takes 57% of your money in personal income taxes.

The delta is closer to 12% actually. Americans average 30% in tax burden, while Finland is 42%. This is strictly wage and payroll taxes, excluding VAT and sales.

https://taxfoundation.org/publicatio...en-labor-oecd/

I’d argue that Americans also have to pay more in taxes due to more people pay property, and various forms of excise tax on vehicles (sales), registration and gasoline taxes since you can’t really function without a car in the US.

I’d gladly pay the additional 12% for quality healthcare, child care, schools (college) pension (retirement) and better public transportation.

When you think about what we’re getting for our 30%, it’s pretty minimal. Apart from a bloated military and spending 2 trillion on a war in Afghanistan that accomplished nothing.

[WestieJeff]

All I care about is net cost. Private health insurance plus copays/deductibles/etc is costing me anywhere from 10-15% of my income.

Originally Posted by TxCaNv

^ A lot of things are possible when the government takes 57% of your money in personal income taxes.

[TxCaNv]

Originally Posted by WestieJeff

All I care about is net cost. Private health insurance plus copays/deductibles/etc is costing me anywhere from 10-15% of my income.

Then you might be fine. I would also concern myself with quality of care and, more importantly, GP to specialist wait times - 20 weeks on average in Canada, for example.