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Old 04-07-2021, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Henderson, NV
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And although it's only 730 this morning, it's pretty dead outside (not quite the zombie apocalypse but not much better). The Palazzo only has a few tables open with probably 5 actual players and they only have the Grand Lux open at the Venetian. I'll probably stroll over to the Mirage to see if they have more than a few tables open and the whopping 7 people playing in the entire casino that I saw last time.

I suspected some of the comments were a bit sensationalized. Vegas is not back yet. You'll know they're back when the conferences return and the nightclubs reopen.
At 730 AM on a Monday? It's rarely busy on the casino floor, even before the pandemic. Same with foot traffic on LV Blvd.
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Old 04-07-2021, 06:54 AM
 
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At 730 AM on a Monday? It's rarely busy on the casino floor, even before the pandemic. Same with foot traffic on LV Blvd.
Uh it wasn't very busy the rest of the day either or on Tuesday (that was just my initial impression from the time of that post). I can't imagine it being very busy at all on weekdays until the conferences come back.

And FWIW, the casino dealers I talked to agreed that they're still dead on the weekdays. I'd say the Palazzo had about 1/4 the tables open, if even that. If they weren't running the blackjack tournament there I was entered in, they could have easily just closed down and left the Venetian open.

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Old 04-07-2021, 10:58 AM
 
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Uh it wasn't very busy the rest of the day either or on Tuesday (that was just my initial impression from the time of that post). I can't imagine it being very busy at all on weekdays until the conferences come back.

And FWIW, the casino dealers I talked to agreed that they're still dead on the weekdays. I'd say the Palazzo had about 1/4 the tables open, if even that. If they weren't running the blackjack tournament there I was entered in, they could have easily just closed down and left the Venetian open.
IMHO, weekdays - at least in the evening - won't be busy until conventions are back.
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Old 04-08-2021, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Henderson, NV
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And although it's only 730 this morning, it's pretty dead outside (not quite the zombie apocalypse but not much better).
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I suspected some of the comments were a bit sensationalized. Vegas is not back yet. You'll know they're back when the conferences return and the nightclubs reopen.
Yep, I agree. And still, mornings are historically low activity for casino floors and sidewalks on The Strip and Downtown. Management will adjust when visitor counts support opening more tables.

They even make and publish these sensational calendar tools to help predict in-person events:

https://www.vegasmeansbusiness.com/p...tion-calendar/
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Old 04-08-2021, 07:57 AM
 
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Yep, I agree. And still, mornings are historically low activity for casino floors and sidewalks on The Strip and Downtown. Management will adjust when visitor counts support opening more tables.

They even make and publish these sensational calendar tools to help predict in-person events:

https://www.vegasmeansbusiness.com/p...tion-calendar/
Of course, and clearly this is not a time that management would staff up tables because (drum roll please).... it's not busy (the point of the comment). There's never been a time (even in the mornings) that I could recall that the Palazzo could shut down their operations and not miss a beat (which was the case on Monday and Tuesday)..

When conventions come back, in the mornings you will see more foot traffic in places like the Venetian and Palazzo that are connected to a convention center. Lots of people wearing lanyards, and very busy cafes and coffee shops. The Grand Lux is not even open at the Palazzo. I don't recall that being the case pre-pandemic. Vegas is not there right now and that was more than evident by this last trip and the one a few weeks before. Even with Spring Break, the place was relatively dead in the mornings and evening.

P.S. And had you read the thread in its entirety, you would realize that part of the sensationalizing had to do with rental cars also. Not to mention, being busy also includes foot traffic on the floor.

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Old 04-09-2021, 04:44 PM
 
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Wrong. They also include Avis.
Oops. Them too.
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Old 04-09-2021, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Aliante
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Haven't read the thread but if anyone hasn't mentioned it yet the car rentals are astronomical because they sold off their inventory because they were going bankrupt during the pandemic. My Mom looked at several rental cars to buy while she was here. It's not just here. It's everywhere. We looked at going to Portland and a car rental was $700 for the week. So the supply is limited and everything is opening back up here and people are traveling again so demand is high which is causing the surge prices. Try the private owner car rental app called Turo. You may have better luck. It's like the Air BnB of cars.
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Old 04-10-2021, 03:59 AM
 
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Haven't read the thread but if anyone hasn't mentioned it yet the car rentals are astronomical because they sold off their inventory because they were going bankrupt during the pandemic. My Mom looked at several rental cars to buy while she was here. It's not just here. It's everywhere. We looked at going to Portland and a car rental was $700 for the week. So the supply is limited and everything is opening back up here and people are traveling again so demand is high which is causing the surge prices. Try the private owner car rental app called Turo. You may have better luck. It's like the Air BnB of cars.
Ahhh, so a supply side issue. Thank you Merry Lee. That's logical.

Had you read the thread, the initial thought was because it was Spring break. But as I mentioned, the casinos weren't very busy at all on Monday or Tuesday, so that didn't exactly play out. It seems logical that a lower inventory of cars would cause this spike. That combined with the governor opening up capacities to 50% and people feeling safer traveling with the vaccines and now things make perfect sense. Clearly YOY, Vegas isn't close to being where they were. I was not aware of the inventory reductions.
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Old 04-27-2021, 02:59 PM
 
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Ahhh, so a supply side issue. Thank you Merry Lee. That's logical.

Had you read the thread, the initial thought was because it was Spring break. But as I mentioned, the casinos weren't very busy at all on Monday or Tuesday, so that didn't exactly play out. It seems logical that a lower inventory of cars would cause this spike. That combined with the governor opening up capacities to 50% and people feeling safer traveling with the vaccines and now things make perfect sense. Clearly YOY, Vegas isn't close to being where they were. I was not aware of the inventory reductions.
You didn't bother to read the article I posted which laid this all out for you, did you?

Or how about this comment:

“March 2021 represented the perfect storm for gaming activity in Nevada,” Lawton said. “However, these numbers also benefited significantly from stimulus payments allowing for increased spend by customers across the state including locals and visitors.”

https://www.cdcgamingreports.com/nev...h-strip-up-67/

But I know, I'm just the guy who exaggerates or makes stuff up...
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Old 04-28-2021, 11:29 PM
 
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I wouldn't have read a thing you said after the start of this thread either when you kept insisting it was just the stimulus that increased business in Vegas, which is flat out ridiculous. It's amazing the nonsense people will write in articles and even more amazing that people will believe them. The answer on the rental cars had nothing to do with stimulus and your article proves that. And opening up capacity and better numbers on the virus obviously was much more the reason on any increase in Vegas business. Move on dude, you're simply wrong.

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