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Old 05-04-2021, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Southern Highlands
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Manufacturing solar panels often requires the use of several noxious chemicals. To add to that, solar panels have an operating lifespan of around 20 to 30 years. Since they were first introduced in the 2000s, literal tons of solar panels are reaching the end of their lifespan. Because it's not easy to properly dispose of the toxic metals inside the solar cells — and there's an overall lack of oversight — it is often cheaper to discard them in landfills or send them to developing countries. As solar panels sit in dumps, the toxic metals they contain can leech out into the environment and possibly pose a public health hazard if they get into the groundwater supply.
This is well know to everyone who is paying attention.
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Old 05-04-2021, 11:17 AM
 
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Yes, but don't most industrial processes involve noxious chemicals and have environmental downsides?

Shoot, once a week there is an entire railroad train of tank cars loaded with sulphuric acid that leaves Philadelphia for points west. Stand by the railroad tracks near any major city and read the writing on the side of tank cars; a train of mixed freight products is a witches brew of some god-awful deadly industrial chemicals. Hell, one job I had we shipped tank trucks of nitro-glycerine around and cross country moves of liquid rocket fuel.

De-greasing chemicals like TCE poison water in many places. IIRC the pollution at any number of military bases is scandalous, not to mention the superfund sites at nuclear weapons plants.

PooPoohing solar for its "crimes" against the environment seems a case of "whataboutism." Has anyone cared to look at the pollution under auto salvage yards as old cars are recycled? We recycle all sorts of batteries now, and old TV sets, computers, phones. My weekly recycling far outweights my weekly 'trash.' Whatever comes, we will deal with it.
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Old 05-04-2021, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Alamo Heights, TX
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OP, give Robco Electric a call and have them give you a quote. They are a local eclectic company that has been around since the 90s and also has a solar arm. That should provide some piece of mind as they will not leave the valley should the same fiasco happen that happened in 2016, when all the outside companies left as net metering was being messed with.
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Old 05-04-2021, 01:56 PM
 
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There is an upside and downside to everything. The question is: are there more upsides than there are upsides? If the toxic that is wasted from recycling solar panels causes less harm to the environment vs the burning of fossil fuels, I'll go with solar panels.
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Old 05-04-2021, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Southern Highlands
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Whatever comes, we will deal with it.
Your plan is to not have a plan.
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Old 05-04-2021, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Henderson, NV
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Also consider that solar panels make it much more difficult to repair a roof of any age.
Not always true. Flat roofs like mine, the panels aren’t secured to the roof, they’re just held in place by large cinder blocks basically. You could move them all off the roof if need be. Is it harder? Yeah, but not much more so.
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Old 05-04-2021, 05:34 PM
 
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Your plan is to not have a plan.
The free market will provide the incentives to make it happen.
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Old 05-05-2021, 07:34 AM
 
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Not always true. Flat roofs like mine, the panels aren’t secured to the roof, they’re just held in place by large cinder blocks basically. You could move them all off the roof if need be. Is it harder? Yeah, but not much more so.
Ha, OK.

They are always secured to the roof unless your installer is a moron.
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Old 05-05-2021, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Southern Highlands
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The free market will provide the incentives to make it happen.
Just as it did in finding a cure for the common cold.
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Old 05-05-2021, 01:55 PM
 
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Just as it did in finding a cure for the common cold.
Not sure how that has do with anything but that is, by definition, how free market economics works. Medically, there is no cure for the cold, but the free market has created medicine to make your body feel better when you are sick
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