[olecapt]

Originally Posted by LasVegasLen

Instead of going around the seller's agent, you could also request that your agent present your offer in person to the seller. The seller's agent is required to allow the buyer's agent to do this. Of course the seller's agent will want to be there when this happens, but at least your agent can present it in person and make sure the seller sees the offer.

Unfortunately not true. The Sellers agent merely certifies that he has a written instruction not to let other agents present offers. And he can get it after the fact.

Been there done that.

[yellowsnow]

Originally Posted by mmmorgan20

Oh, we definitely would not put in a pool ourselves. That's a total waste of money. We would love to have a house with one already in. We have a 9 month old so I was very skeptical and hesitant because of safety issues. The cover sounds like a great idea. I was thinking about a fence but that might not be as safe as I'd like it to be. Tell me where you got the cover and how much it cost to install. I'm very interested...

I started out thinking I would never put one in either. Then I talked to a couple contractors and people who owned pools there. Here's what I found out:

You can get a decent size rectangular pool, drive it off the the lot $30 to $40K. Complete! You know who put it in and who to call for service. You know where all the pipes are and that all your equipment is new. It's what you want. You can get solar and the retractable cover. Whatever you want to pay for. If you want to dream, look at Pebble Tech Pools!

If you buy an existing pool it could be carefree or a nightmare. It's a gamble. Pool people are busy and you are at the end or their list for repairs etc because they didn't put your pool in. They don't necessarily WANT to work on pools put in by other companies. Work can be quite expensive especially if the have to tear up your deck looking for plumbing.

After studying, we decided to also look at less expensive homes with large lots. Now I have 2 lists!

[yellowsnow]

To Olecapt and LasVegasLen

This property has been on the market for going on 2 years now. I check it once a week looking for any sign these people are even remotely interested in selling. They have yet to lower the price by 1 red cent! It has gone off the market a couple times for a day or so. I believe the property is vacant as well. The house needs a major remodel but the pool is killer! There is something odd here. If I ever saw any sign these people were ready to sell, I would consider doing what you suggest. I am going to look at the house up close and personal in March. I will be in Vegas with transportation. I've done the drive-by several times and never seen any sign the property is lived in. Maybe this is one of those wonky estate deals. I'm serious about the 100K overpriced thing too, I check the solds and the Market Condition Reports every month.

The good news is that Bobby Darrin's house just went down 25K. I will drive by that one too!

[olecapt]

Send me a PM with the address. Sometimes I can gork what is going on by using all the various data systems. If it is in probate it can generally be found out. And sometimes I know the agent and can call him up and ask wtf.

[olecapt]

Originally Posted by yellowsnow

I started out thinking I would never put one in either. Then I talked to a couple contractors and people who owned pools there. Here's what I found out:

You can get a decent size rectangular pool, drive it off the the lot $30 to $40K. Complete! You know who put it in and who to call for service. You know where all the pipes are and that all your equipment is new. It's what you want. You can get solar and the retractable cover. Whatever you want to pay for. If you want to dream, look at Pebble Tech Pools!

If you buy an existing pool it could be carefree or a nightmare. It's a gamble. Pool people are busy and you are at the end or their list for repairs etc because they didn't put your pool in. They don't necessarily WANT to work on pools put in by other companies. Work can be quite expensive especially if the have to tear up your deck looking for plumbing.

After studying, we decided to also look at less expensive homes with large lots. Now I have 2 lists!

I don't have any trouble with putting in a pool. You just have to understand it is financially a loser. I would have put in a pool at our present house if it had not come with one. I continue racking my brain to figure out what to do about a Jacuzzi. We should have gas available any time now and if we do I will add a Jacuzzi. My wife if all over me to go get an electric one and be done with it. But I do like a comfortable one. I could put in an inground and propane and then convert but there is the awkwardness of where the propane tank goes.

Probably the wife is right,,,get a big electric and forget about it.

But anyway a pool is OK just don't try to flip in two or three years.

There is really not a lot to a pool. I think I have replaced everything on this one at least once. It is nicely set up except for one pair of valves placed against the concrete. If one of them goes I will have to rebuilt it in place or get a saw in.