04-26-2011, 11:33 PM
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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I understand Town Square is in trouble because they couldn't rent the apartments there. The stores seem to be doing all right. I think that may also be the reason Tivoli Village will open in stages. Go to any restaurant in Boca Park for dinner and see how long the wait for a table is, then you wouldn't think there was an economic slowdown. Same thing in most stores around town. Whenever we go shopping the stores are always packed.
04-27-2011, 08:07 AM
Location: Las Vegas
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I understand Town Square is in trouble because they couldn't rent the apartments there. The stores seem to be doing all right. I think that may also be the reason Tivoli Village will open in stages. Go to any restaurant in Boca Park for dinner and see how long the wait for a table is, then you wouldn't think there was an economic slowdown. Same thing in most stores around town. Whenever we go shopping the stores are always packed.
Exactly Buzz. When my sis was here in Feb and we were tooling around locally, not in the tourist areas, she kept asking me the same thing..."where's the Las Vegas recession, your stores here are more crowded than back home?"
If they bus the touristas in from the Strip like they do at Town Square, Tivoli will make it. The shops, like in Town Square will do ok. But I think all that office space will remain empty for a long time, and Tivoli is not "right on the way" to Las Vegas, off the 15/LVB and as easily accessible to the Cali crowd as Town Square is.
04-27-2011, 08:32 AM
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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I understand Town Square is in trouble because they couldn't rent the apartments there. The stores seem to be doing all right. I think that may also be the reason Tivoli Village will open in stages. Go to any restaurant in Boca Park for dinner and see how long the wait for a table is, then you wouldn't think there was an economic slowdown. Same thing in most stores around town. Whenever we go shopping the stores are always packed.
I don't believe there are any apartments in Town Square. There is office space.
The financial problems in Town Square deal with a dispute over long term financing with Leyhman Bros. Basically Turnberry the developer could not get the long term financing supposedly agree to by Leyhman. Hence the problem.
Operations at Town Square are supposedly just fine.
04-27-2011, 11:16 AM
Location: North Las Vegas
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Town square couldn't have condo's due to it's proximity to the air plane traffic is right over head.
As the economy seems to not get better one of the newest shopping centers Town Square has been filed on by the bank for being in default, and the bank is demanding payment in full.
Business Retail market suffers
04-27-2011, 11:18 AM
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This is going to be great for people who live in a certain part of Summerlin. Especially those that live in Queensridge and the highrise property of One Qeensridge and the other highrise Mira Villa and the master planned community of TPC. The rest of Vegas will find it a refreshing addition even if they have to drive a few miles to check it out.
Tivoli Village counting down to grand opening
04-27-2011, 11:36 AM
Location: Las Vegas
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Town square couldn't have condo's due to it's proximity to the air plane traffic is right over head.
As the economy seems to not get better one of the newest shopping centers Town Square has been filed on by the bank for being in default, and the bank is demanding payment in full.
Business Retail market suffers
Town Square is a tourist trap, the same shops that are there are in all the casinos as well.
What is good about it is the neat movie theater and live events (entertainment, bands, etc.) and the idea that families can spend a few hours there with the baby strollers and walk in and out of shops, grab a bite to eat, have an ice cream, etc.
If Tivoli Village wants to really be successful as a locals place, they need to keep the prices down, you got restaurant row right next door in Boca Park which attracts the locals, but you start charging people exorbitant prices and it will turn into the Town Square thing, a nice place to spend a few hours with the kiddies, walk around, window shop, spend very little and leave. I don't see anything in the future about movie theaters for Tivoli Village either. The Suncoast/Century Theaters is right across the street, they don't need movie theaters in Tivoli.
Live entertainment would be nice though.
Last edited by MomMom; 04-27-2011 at 11:51 AM ..
04-27-2011, 05:49 PM
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I'm exicted for it's opening. I think it will do ok, Boca Park is busy & there isn't anything even that great in there.
04-28-2011, 07:08 PM
Location: La La Land
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04-28-2011, 07:48 PM
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Went to property shortly after opening this morning. I was impressed with the architecture of the place. They definately captured the "olde world" look.
Not impressed with the stores that were open (all of them WERE NOT despite what the news reports said), they are mid to high end prices.
Two places that were really busy were Petra, the Greek Restaurant and Brio Italian, they have a Brio at Town Square Mall also and the place here in Tivoli has really fine outdoor seating. Food prices in line with the other Boca Park eateries such as Olive Garden and Cheesecake Factory.
Here's some photos I snapped. Parking is great, people were really coming in as I was leaving, locals checking the place out. The place is small, smaller than The District and much smaller than Town Square.
I actually bought a decorated T-shirt in that Couture store, the sales girl said I was their first sale in that location and I got $25.00 off my purchase, lol.
As I predicted, a great and beautiful place to spend an afternoon, in and out of the shops. They had a stage set up, but that's where the festivities were taking place. If there is live music, it would be really nice. The cafe (Cafe Leone or Leone Cafe, forget which) was kinda real nice too. I'm sure it will be always crowded as will all the restaurants in there. Overall, I liked the place. Unique design and not like the other outdoor town malls we have already. Same concept though.
There's an awful lot of office space to fill in there, too.
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04-29-2011, 01:15 AM
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We went to Tivoli Village around 2pm. Parking was easy for us, as one person was leaving when we arrived, but that didn't help the 50 cars behind us.
The weather was perfect, warm and breezy.
Really enjoyed the all female violin players on stage. Don't know who they were, but they were excellent.
Channel 8 news and Channel 13 news were both there. Didn't see Channel 3. Found out later they showed up after we left since i saw them live on the news after we got home. Checked out all the shops and restaurants. Took some photos and went home. A pleasant afternoon.
This is only Phase 1 opening. The rest will be next year, and I predict a bigger opening celebration once it is all finished. We knew going over there that the stores would be something we would probably never shop at. We just like to pretend.
As for that T-shirt, for $25 off, shouldn't it have been free? lol
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People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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