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Old 12-14-2009, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Kingman AZ
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Is there a strong anti-immigration bias in Las Vegas?
I personally do not believe there is an anti-immigration bias.....I DO believe, however, that there is a VERY strong anti-illegal immigration bias....

Legal immigrants are present in EVERY hotel and casino in the state of Nevada and are valued employees...

 
Old 12-21-2009, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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My sense of Las Vegas is that the general attitude is less "dont bother me I can take care of myself" but more "I dont want to help anyone else."
 
Old 12-21-2009, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Kingman AZ
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that would be the thought process of someone that doesn't know Las Vegas... the same probably is true in places like....mmmm Seattle.....
 
Old 12-21-2009, 06:30 PM
 
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My sense of Las Vegas is that the general attitude is less "dont bother me I can take care of myself" but more "I dont want to help anyone else."
You are describing conservative Republicans or Libertarians. Not everyone here is a conservative.
 
Old 12-21-2009, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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I think you'd have to look high and low for a tattered, dog-leafed copy of any book by Karl Marx here.

Our Airport is named after one of the bigger Commie chasers during the 50's, along with his pals Nixon and Joe McCarthy.
 
Old 12-21-2009, 08:44 PM
 
Location: NorCal and Vegas!
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Just don't read the R-J....the voice of doom and gloom.

Vegas is becoming more and more Democratic in voting. The rest of the state is still Republican. But keep in mind all the people live in Vegas.
 
Old 12-21-2009, 09:11 PM
 
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You are describing conservative Republicans or Libertarians. Not everyone here is a conservative.
Not everyone - but unfortunately the majority.
 
Old 12-21-2009, 09:32 PM
 
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Not everyone - but unfortunately the majority.
True, but remember the state did go blue for 2008.
 
Old 12-21-2009, 09:45 PM
 
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True, but remember the state did go blue for 2008.
Your right, but I do think a change will come once the situation gets even more out of control.
 
Old 12-23-2009, 01:01 AM
 
Location: central, between Pepe's Tacos and Roberto's
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You are describing conservative Republicans or Libertarians. Not everyone here is a conservative.
You would be correct if you are talking about party politicians (and that actually applies to politicians of any party affiliation), but I assure you that conservatives and libertarians (notice neither are capitalized) are not of the mindset that you quoted. The issue I personally have with entitlements is the fact that they have been abused on a grand scale, both by the the receiver of benefits as well as those that distribute the benefits. IMO, LBJ's "Great Society" is the new slavery (not speaking racially here so let's not jump the PC gun folks) and in all honesty I am not sure how MLK could in one speech talk about his children being judged on the content of their character, and in another calling the preceived shortfall of welfare programs for the "Great Society" a casualty of the Vietnam War. I suppose these types of leaps of logic are typical of liberal utopian ideology, and this is coming from a reformed idealogue mind you.

Enabling people in such a way creates dependency, which may be exactly what liberal politicians want in that it keeps them under the Democrat thumb. What I vehemently oppose is being forced to help support people that will not support themselves, and I blame the same system that forces me to support these "less fortunate" for making them dependent on the system. A hypothetical analogy, if you will: You find a wolf cub while you are out on a hike. It is injured and hungry, and may (or may not) die if you leave it there. You take it home and nurse it back to health over the course of a year or two. You feed it by hand, you make sure it is warm and well fed and never has to worry about a thing. After awhile it is to big to keep so you must release it back into the wild. Do you think that the wolf will have the survival skills necessary to survive on it's own having grown up without having to fend for itself? Do you really think it's any different for people? Lao Tzu once said "Give a man a fish; feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish; feed him for a lifetime". I happen to agree with this.

FWIW, I don't necessarily disagree with safety nets for those that are truly desperate, and it just so happens that I do contribute quite a bit to charities of my choice when I am able to do so. However, it is not the government's job to decide where and when my charity will go, or in what amount. Don't try to force your version of morality on me and I will show that same respect for you.

“Forced to choose, the poor, like the rich, love money more than political liberty; and the only political freedom capable of enduring is one that is so pruned as to keep the rich from denuding the poor by ability or subtlety and the poor from robbing the rich by violence or votes.” -Will Durant

“…a wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned.” -Thomas Jefferson

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy." -attributed to Alexander Tytler although more likely Alexis de Tocqueville

"When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion - when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing - when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors - when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you - when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice - you may know that your society is doomed." -Ayn Rand

"Capitalism and communism stand at opposite poles. Their essential difference is this: The communist, seeing the rich man and his fine home, says: 'No man should have so much.' The capitalist, seeing the same thing, says: 'All men should have as much.' " –Phelps Adams

"Justice is always naive and self-confident; believing that it will immediately win once recognized. That is the reason why the forces of Justice are so poorly organized. On the other hand, the Evil is cynic, sly and fantastically organized. It never ever has the illusion of the ability to stand on its own feet and to win in a fair competition. That is why it is ready to use any kind of means without hesitation. And of course it does - under the banners of the most noble ideas." –Vladimir Bukovsky
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