02-05-2010, 03:37 AM
Location: Las Vegas / GV
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Where is the best place to find good car deals? I have been looking in auto trader and on cars (dot) com and even got so desperate looking for decent deals i have hit craigslist and ebay...
02-05-2010, 10:26 AM
Location: Alamo Heights, TX
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I'd try the LVRJ hardcopy (Sunday for more ads) and look at the "for sale by owner" section. What are you in the market for?
02-05-2010, 11:25 AM
Location: Kingman AZ
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Look at the other car thread...movingon2lv has one he's tryin to unload
02-05-2010, 01:05 PM
Location: Portland, OR / Las Vegas, NV
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Maybe airics can help. He works at an auto auction and has been in the car business in the past.
02-05-2010, 03:32 PM
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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I don't think I'll ever buy from anyone but Car Max from now on. When we bought our Honda it was the only time car buying was ever a pleasant experience. Saturn was pretty good too if you like Saturns. But now I guess Saturn has gone or is going away. Too bad GM won't sell all it's cars (what there is left of them) that way.
02-05-2010, 03:39 PM
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Where is the best place to find good car deals? I have been looking in auto trader and on cars (dot) com and even got so desperate looking for decent deals i have hit craigslist and ebay...
Sounds like you're in a spot similar to the one I was in last January. Looked through stuff like Craigslist, Auto Trader, LVRJ, ebay, even (gasp) dealers. I was primarily looking at used cars between $3,000 to $8,000, mostly at the upper end of that range - was willing to go lower for an older car if it was good value. Having never bought a new car, I was looking for a reasonable late model used car that had already taken a depreciation hit. Always been a used car guy to get better value.
You'd think a few people in this town would be in need of cash & willing to make a deal, but anyone I talked to wanted more than blue book value for their car & wouldn't budge. Maybe blue book value needs a bump in this climate where cars can last longer, but some of the stuff I saw was WAY over book. Maybe I caught the wrong people on the wrong day as well, but people were surprisingly unwilling to negotiate (negotiation's generally been a strength of mine).
I ran into a LOT of curbstoners, you know, the guy who's selling a car 'for a friend'. Riiiigghht. In reality, they're small-time (unlicensed) 'dealers' trying to move cars as if it's a private-party sale - I found them pretty easy to sniff out & there were a lot of them out there.
After talking to a few friends, a couple suggested looking at new cars with the weak economy. Their logic was this: even if I take a depreciation hit, that could be offset if I negotiated a good deal. In addition, I'd know the history of the car from day one. In this climate, I could expect a car to last 10-15 (or more) years easily if I take good care of it. A new car is something I never would've considered in Chicago with the winters, road salt & using bumpers as 'guides' when parking in the city.
Ultimately, I bought a new car, a 2008 Kia Optima LX (AT/AC/PW/PL/CD/CC/etc) just as the 2009s were set to come out. The dealer had tons of inventory & was desperate to move it, a big rebate was just announced & I was able to work off a deal that a friend had negotiated on a similar car. It took the usual BS of hours of tough negotiating & getting up a few times to leave, but ultimately I bought a car that stickered for over $19K for $10,850 before TTL. Add in a 5 yr, 60K bumper to bumper factory warranty & I was good to go.
So, I guess that's my roundabout way of saying "consider everything". I NEVER would've expected to wind up buying a new car last January, but I did. I'm still very happy with it; it's been a solid car, great mileage, put in a K&N lifetime air filter, switched to synthetic oil & best of all I know its entire history. If anything comes up, either I did it or it's a manufacturer problem.
If you do look at new cars, be prepared (know invoice/rebates/etc), stick to your guns & negotiate hard. GM is dealing right now on Pontiac & Saturn stuff; not my cup of tea, but you can probably get some sweet deals since they're going bye-bye. Otherwise, beware the curbstoners. My opinion is Craigslist is still probably your best bet, but you gotta have thick skin & be willing to wade through a lot of flakes & nut-jobs. What's the old saying, you've got to kiss a lot of frogs to find a prince? Pucker up.
02-05-2010, 09:15 PM
Location: Las Vegas / GV
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dynimagelv
Look at the other car thread...movingon2lv has one he's tryin to unload
ha ha ha ha uhmmmm no. i never did like fixing my car everyday before i had to go to work it would be too much of a reminder of my first car
what i would really like is a 2005-2008 Audi TT coupe (not convertable) black on black or a gunmetal color on black interior would work too. for an audi i would settle for a cvt transmission but prefer manual. I hate automatics and cant drive them for ****
I have found a couple manual transmissions for under 25 but i would have to have had them transported to vegas and then all the other stuff i would rather just buy local... Plus i think 25 is still a little high...
If i cant find my dream TT... then I have also thought about the more economically friendly Nissian Altima Coupe. looking for a black on black. will only consider the 6 spd manual transmission. NO CVT, NO AUTOMATICS.
I really hate automatics.... I never even saw one until i hit 15 and took drivers ed... to this day i have driven an automatic so few times. i serious cant drive them.. i just cant function without the clutch... ha ha ha ha hah
02-06-2010, 10:57 AM
Location: Kingman AZ
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I have heard varying results from craigslist....a LOT of scammers....however that's where I went to buy my Grandson his first car....and got a great price on a great car [for a first car]...if you are automotively astute [I Love inventing words that work] it's a good place to look....CarMax is a GREAT dealership and will give you GREAT cars.....
02-06-2010, 02:56 PM
Location: Here and there, you decide.
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if you are looking for a cheap car, craigslist might be the way to go... i personally don't like selling the older stuff because when it breaks, it is "always" my fault. for the high dollar stuff.. never craigslist... be very careful of scammers and curbstoners.. and avoid salvage cars.. the price is much less but remember you get what you pay for...
02-06-2010, 09:23 PM
Location: Las Vegas / GV
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So yesterday i got online and started poking around to find out how much it would cost to insure each car (and the one my husband wants but i didnt post up here) and holy &%$# insurence and registration is EXPENSIVE in vegas!!!!!!
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Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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