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I call BS on this. Unemployment rates in IT for example:
0.9% - Computer and information research scientists
1.7% - Network and computer systems administrators
2.2% - Computer and information systems managers
2.3% - Software developers, applications and systems software
3.1% - Database administrators
3.8% - Computer systems analysts
Less than half national average.
Give me a networker with 10 years in the field, one year teaching in prorietary, Masters and Comptia who is open to 55k.
Speaking as someone who has worked in I.T. for fifteen years, I call B.S. on your B.S. call. I've worked with a lot of H1-Bs in my time and I have to honestly say that I'd rather we hire some random unemployed clerk and train them. You'd probably get a better result. I am far from impressed by the quality of work performed by allegedly "superior" Indian I.T. grads. You don't need a degree in I.T. to do any of those jobs except maybe systems analysis and research science, which are more theoretical than the others. You can learn the necessary skills in certification courses.
Is that a tacit acknowledgement that you don't see enough technology workers?
Who said they were "superior"? National Interest Waivers are a tiny fraction of the immigration cases in question. The rest just have to qualify for sponsorship (position requires masters they have or requires 5+ years of experience for EB-2, the appropriate college degree for EB-3).
Anyone is free to recruit their IT at Dairy Queen... I suppose there are reasons it isn't happening. And I'm pretty sure a Dairy Queen clerk would happily accept 55k, so cost is not the reason...
Is that a tacit acknowledgement that you don't see enough technology workers?
Who said they were "superior"? National Interest Waivers are a tiny fraction of the immigration cases in question. The rest just have to qualify for sponsorship (position requires masters they have or requires 5+ years of experience for EB-2, the appropriate college degree for EB-3).
Anyone is free to recruit their IT at Dairy Queen... I suppose there are reasons it isn't happening. And I'm pretty sure a Dairy Queen clerk would happily accept 55k, so cost is not the reason...
I don't think you understood me.
The quality of Indian I.T. workers is abysmal...to the point where you probably could hire a register jockey from Dairy Queen, train them, and get a better worker.
I acknowledge that I.T. is overflowing with Indians, but that doesn't mean that we don't have enough homegrown talent to fill those jobs. It means employers want to keep wages down. I don't think they're superior, but us native-born I.T. workers hear it often enough (often from the Indians themselves) that we know that someone must think they're better than we are. I sure as hell don't.
The quality of Indian I.T. workers is abysmal...to the point where you probably could hire a register jockey from Dairy Queen, train them, and get a better worker.
I acknowledge that I.T. is overflowing with Indians, but that doesn't mean that we don't have enough homegrown talent to fill those jobs. It means employers want to keep wages down. I don't think they're superior, but us native-born I.T. workers hear it often enough (often from the Indians themselves) that we know that someone must think they're better than we are. I sure as hell don't.
Point taken. Have to agree that there are plenty of folks whose work quality is abysmal, especially those working for outsourcing firms that don't have any actual knowledge of anything, but just serve as a proxy to get workers for the cheap.
Point taken. Have to agree that there are plenty of folks whose work quality is abysmal, especially those working for outsourcing firms that don't have any actual knowledge of anything, but just serve as a proxy to get workers for the cheap.
*nod* Infosys and TCS are the worst I've seen, but we have a lot of home-grown idiots too. We sure don't need to import idiots.
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