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Old 01-31-2013, 10:46 AM
 
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We would like to bring to your attention a group of Legal Immigrants, who are living in the US on an E2 Treaty Investor Visa.



The E2 Treaty Investor Visa is a Non Immigrant Visa, which can be granted to a national of a treaty country, of which there are around 75 all over the world. There must be a substantial investment made into a business and the business must provide significantly more than just an income for the investor and family. In other words there must be employees.



The visa must be renewed every few years, by attending an Interview at a US Embassy outside of the US and showing continued growth and job creation.



Currently the E2 Treaty Investor Visa does not lead to the investor and family being able to attain Legal Permanent Residency - Green Cards - to stay in the US long term, and this is what we would like to see reformed.



Upon research, it was found that the E2 Treaty Investor Visa is the only Non Immigrant visa that requires a substantial investment without leading to Legal Permanent Residency.



Our hope is that E2 Treaty Investor Visa holders who have reached certain criteria, could then look at future stability and a permanent home in the US. This would not be a blanket change for all of these visa holders - we feel it should be earned.



From data recently collected, from

251 businesses, we have the following figures:



Number of Employees - 3373

Original Investment - $71,218,886

Turnover (Sales) 2010 - $194,312,065

Turnover (Sales) 2011 - $229,687,666



We believe there is anything between 30,000 and 100,000 E2 Treaty Investor businesses in the US. This is based on Data from the Department of State that shows between 25,000 and 30,000 have been issued each year for the last 5 years. However we do know this includes renewals, E2 Manager and E2 Essential Worker visas, as well as original applications for E2 businesses. There is currently no official data of the individual breakdown.



We know that greater business development could be achieved by E2 Treaty Investor Visa holders, if, a pathway to Legal Permanent Residency was available. The current situation leads to these visa holders not having a secure platform on which to make business decisions and plan beyond their next renewal. With expansion would come the opportunity to offer more jobs to more US citizens.



E2 Treaty Investor Visa holders pay taxes, buy houses and vehicles, spend their hard earned money here and contribute to their local communities.



You may ask why changes have not been made to this visa before now - well it has become very clear to us that not many politicians, or their aides, know much about this visa. We are a very small group of immigrants compared to many others. But does that make us any less deserving of reform? We also believe that we are the first group to try and bring this to the attention of Washington.



Life can be very tough for the E2 Treaty Investor Visa holder. We cannot retire on this visa, even though many have been here for 20 years or longer, paying into the Social Security and Medicare Fund. Our children 'Age Out' at 21 and have to be given other visas in their own right. The only real viable options are an International Student visa, having their own E2 business, with all of the same issues, or marriage. These children are not entitled to Social Security Numbers and therefore are unable to work and learn the worth of money or of a job well done.



Our hope is that Reform for the E2 Treaty Investor Visa can be considered within any current Immigration Reform that are going to be proposed.
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A lady by the name of Zoe Adams is in charge of this E2 overhaul and is trying to get more attention. Please email her or check www.E2VisaReform.org
for more info about this subject and it is unfair not to incl. this group of legal visa holders into the path to a greencard.
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Old 01-31-2013, 05:44 PM
 
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The children above 21 can find work on H-1B visa. They can join university. they can get SSN from there.
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Old 01-31-2013, 08:21 PM
 
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The children above 21 can find work on H-1B visa. They can join university. they can get SSN from there.
Sounds pretty easy, but reality isn't...
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Old 02-01-2013, 08:16 AM
 
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Sounds pretty easy, but reality isn't...
The parents moved to the US knowing about their and their kids legal status. It must be better then where they came from. Send them to school, bringing to the table what a US employer seeks should be a good incentive for the student especially as a lot of grad programs are basically free.
What is your dob in this hunt?
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Old 02-05-2013, 09:06 PM
 
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They should throw away their legal papers and visas, stop respecting the laws of this country which turn out are nothing but a big joke. Claim to be here illegally and they'll soon be full-fledged US citizens, qualified for all the welfare handouts.
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Old 05-14-2013, 08:40 PM
 
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Petition to the White House for E2 Visa Reform

Hello,

I wanted to let you know about a new petition I created on We the People,
a new feature on WhiteHouse.gov, and ask for your support. Will you add your
name to mine? If this petition gets 100,000 signatures by June 13, 2013, the
White House will review it and respond!

We the People allows anyone to create and sign petitions asking the Obama
Administration to take action on a range of issues. If a petition gets
enough support, the Obama Administration will issue an official response.

You can view and sign the petition here:

[url]http://wh.gov/JSvw[/url]

Here's some more information about this petition:


Give a Path for E2 Visa Investors to Obtain a Green Card


Many Foreign Investors come to the US to open small or medium businesses,
they create jobs, and pay more taxes than many americans do. While the
immigration reform plans to legalize millions of undocumented illegal aliens,
these Foreign Investors, that do comply with the laws to come to this
country, and create positive benefits for the US economy and society, are not
given any option for obtaining a permanent residence status, I think that
these people that comes to the US to create jobs, pay taxes, and inject money
to our economy, should be given a much better opportunity to get a green
card, than people that came to this country in an unlawful way, and many of
them do not, or did never made any contribution to the american economy and
society.

Together, we can make a difference.
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Old 08-27-2014, 05:26 PM
 
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You are absolutely right, E-2 investors should be eligible for Green card. I want to know if E-2 investors can purchase house and can qualify through mortgage lenders to get home loans- please advise if anyone knows about this.
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Old 08-27-2014, 07:39 PM
 
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You are absolutely right, E-2 investors should be eligible for Green card. I want to know if E-2 investors can purchase house and can qualify through mortgage lenders to get home loans- please advise if anyone knows about this.
Why?

The class of visa is designed so that the investor makes money and generates tax revenue for the U.S. It was never intended or designed to be used as a pathway for permanent residency. It was designed for financial investments only.

Tit for Tat.

You want money. The US wants money.

You both win.

Where do you figure you deserve a green card?

Because you entered into a business transaction overseen by the US government and following the contract deal by making a profit for yourself?

Oh wait. You think you should get a green card by adverse possession, right? You hang out in the US long enough and somehow ownership and control of the country comes automatically to you.

No.

Just... no.

But of course, the current President disagrees with me. He insists on breaking the laws and refuses to enforce the existing laws.

So maybe there's hope for you yet.

As for your mortgage, you don't have to be a permanent residence or a citizen to buy property. You should contact the bank you're using in the US since they would be the ones setting the terms and conditions of a loan or they would be most familiar with the terms of any company they work with.
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Old 09-07-2014, 02:04 PM
 
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We would like to bring to your attention a group of Legal Immigrants, who are living in the US on an E2 Treaty Investor Visa.



The E2 Treaty Investor Visa is a Non Immigrant Visa, which can be granted to a national of a treaty country, of which there are around 75 all over the world. There must be a substantial investment made into a business and the business must provide significantly more than just an income for the investor and family. In other words there must be employees.



The visa must be renewed every few years, by attending an Interview at a US Embassy outside of the US and showing continued growth and job creation.



Currently the E2 Treaty Investor Visa does not lead to the investor and family being able to attain Legal Permanent Residency - Green Cards - to stay in the US long term, and this is what we would like to see reformed.



Upon research, it was found that the E2 Treaty Investor Visa is the only Non Immigrant visa that requires a substantial investment without leading to Legal Permanent Residency.



Our hope is that E2 Treaty Investor Visa holders who have reached certain criteria, could then look at future stability and a permanent home in the US. This would not be a blanket change for all of these visa holders - we feel it should be earned.



From data recently collected, from

251 businesses, we have the following figures:



Number of Employees - 3373

Original Investment - $71,218,886

Turnover (Sales) 2010 - $194,312,065

Turnover (Sales) 2011 - $229,687,666



We believe there is anything between 30,000 and 100,000 E2 Treaty Investor businesses in the US. This is based on Data from the Department of State that shows between 25,000 and 30,000 have been issued each year for the last 5 years. However we do know this includes renewals, E2 Manager and E2 Essential Worker visas, as well as original applications for E2 businesses. There is currently no official data of the individual breakdown.



We know that greater business development could be achieved by E2 Treaty Investor Visa holders, if, a pathway to Legal Permanent Residency was available. The current situation leads to these visa holders not having a secure platform on which to make business decisions and plan beyond their next renewal. With expansion would come the opportunity to offer more jobs to more US citizens.



E2 Treaty Investor Visa holders pay taxes, buy houses and vehicles, spend their hard earned money here and contribute to their local communities.



You may ask why changes have not been made to this visa before now - well it has become very clear to us that not many politicians, or their aides, know much about this visa. We are a very small group of immigrants compared to many others. But does that make us any less deserving of reform? We also believe that we are the first group to try and bring this to the attention of Washington.



Life can be very tough for the E2 Treaty Investor Visa holder. We cannot retire on this visa, even though many have been here for 20 years or longer, paying into the Social Security and Medicare Fund. Our children 'Age Out' at 21 and have to be given other visas in their own right. The only real viable options are an International Student visa, having their own E2 business, with all of the same issues, or marriage. These children are not entitled to Social Security Numbers and therefore are unable to work and learn the worth of money or of a job well done.



Our hope is that Reform for the E2 Treaty Investor Visa can be considered within any current Immigration Reform that are going to be proposed.
---------------------------------------

A lady by the name of Zoe Adams is in charge of this E2 overhaul and is trying to get more attention. Please email her or check www.E2VisaReform.org
for more info about this subject and it is unfair not to incl. this group of legal visa holders into the path to a greencard.
I know this thread old(AKA all those who constantly complain about bumping old threads even though there is a message at the bottom of the page encourging it, can stay away) but this topic is interesting to me.
The investor visa was never meant to be the arrangement where the investor is investing in the USA and in return he gets a visa to stay here. It is the arrangement that the US is simply allowing the investor to stay here and overseas his business and not have immigration issues be a barrier to foreigners starting businesses in the USA. So it is not the quid pro-quo you imply in teh post.
Now do I think an investor running a businesses get kicked out of the country if his business has a down year? No. But do I think if his business fail, or he decides that he doesn't want to do it anymore(and the business ceases to exists after he decides this), do I think he should be able to stay in the USA forever? No I do not.
As for the retirement thing. I don't think I have a problem with E2 visa holders retiring here and getting a non-employment visa. But for any change like this, we need to make sure this doesn't turn in to people buying visas.
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Old 05-30-2015, 11:30 PM
 
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E2 visa
Whag is the difference between the E2 visa and the green card other than voting
If you own and runing a gaz station
And you have your family, can they work and help you in the gaz station?
dcan you apply for your kids and wife for a social security number?
can you buy a housse and ask for a bank mortgage?
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