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Old 01-25-2014, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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The Canadian Government isn't likely to take back the weapon it has covertly unleashed on America.

You guys have nukes. We have a small stock pile of Biebers.






Option: Nuke Bieber?
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Old 01-25-2014, 07:25 PM
 
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Exactly. One misdemeanor = not sufficient. The egging thing will likely not result in removal proceedings for him either. He'd have to really mess up big time with a drug conviction or some type of AF/CIMT for it to really be an issue.

Also he benefits from being in the Ninth Circuit which is by far the most hospitable to aliens. On top of that, we really don't want him gone. Say what you want about him but the other poster is right when he said that Biebs has created jobs for probably dozens of people and he is good for the economy. He's not some welfare leech wallowing in the dregs of society.

Lastly, no matter what he (should) be getting a top-notch attorney who will be well-aware of the immigration consequences of any conviction Bieber should receive and should, if s/he's good, be able to get around any conviction that would have adverse consequences.
That's right. Any competent criminal defense atty will manage the details of a plea deal to avoid immigration consequences. If possible.
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Old 01-25-2014, 07:52 PM
 
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Yeah, let's keep the welfare pirates but deport a highly successful legal resident whose managing keeps dozens of Americans employed.

Some people..
He is not a legal resident, he is here on a non-immigrant visa.

DUI is not enough to deport him. He needs to commit a crime involving moral turpitude. If he was convicted of drug charges, the immigration judge has no choice but to order him deported as he has to follow zero tolerance.
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Old 01-25-2014, 08:06 PM
 
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He's a thug...give him some jail time and send him on his way. Thugs like that need to be put in their place.

I would say THUG is an overstatement--for speeding, DUI, and egging. Give him time to do something EVIL and then you can dump the thug label on him.
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Old 01-26-2014, 12:14 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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I agree to make him pay, but on the other hand what makes you think Canada wants him back? I'm just sorry the breathalizer showed him under the legal limit. Still got the other charges they can get him on.
There is no legal limit for a 19-year-old. He told police he had taken painkillers and smoked marijuana as well. I hope there is a blood test that will confirm what was in his system.

There were cookie jars (plural) full of marijuana when police searched his house looking for videotaped evidence of him (allegedly) egging his neighbor's house. Anyone else with that much marijuana would have been arrested and have faced drug trafficking charges.

He also told police that his mom supplied him with painkillers. She should be deported as well.
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Old 01-26-2014, 07:32 AM
 
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There's now a petition going on to ask the White House to deport him. Though he is on a special visa that is issued to those with exceptional talents. I guess his talent is in being an exceptional idiot.
Can we get a link to this petition?

I'd sign in a heartbeat, Bieber is a twerp.
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Old 01-26-2014, 07:38 AM
 
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Duluth;

Please......... get your facts right.

Canada reserves the absolute right to deny entry to IMMIGRANTS, who may pose a "undue cost to the Canadian health care system ". NOT to tourists who want to enter Canada for a short stay.

Before a IMMIGRANT is approved to come to Canada, they MUST have a medical examination, in their own country, performed by a Medical Doctor, who is under contract to the Canadian Immigration board. And they pay for that exam, themselves.

Second point. Right after 9/11, the USA and Canada agreed that the International boundary needed to be more secure. At that time I was a owner/operator with a expedite freight company based in Ontario. Most of my emergency deliveries went to the USA, and I was in your country 4 days out of every week, on average. My experience was that the US side went way overboard on screening and outright stupid stuff, like insisting that I couldn't be born in Canada ,and also have a Canadian Citizenship card issued to me. They just made it up as they went along, it seemed to me.

Now that has eased off quite a bit, mainly due to official complaints from the Canadian Government and Provincial Premiers, who were being deluged with complaints from their irate citizens, about mis-treatment by USCIS.

Justin Bieber is a legal resident of the US, with a properly issued Visa and unless he is convicted of a felony, which could happen in the future, he isn't going to be tossed out for a DUI, which is a misdemeanor in Florida. You don`t have to like him, just respect his rights, OK.

I wonder how many people know this fact............ Elvis Presley's manager, Colonel Tom Parker , was a illegal immigrant, from Holland, who jumped ship in the USA, and never had a US passport. That is why Elvis never went on tour, except to go to Canada, which at that time, didn't require `Americans `to have a passport to enter Canada. Should HE have been sent back to his homeland........! Parker, not Presley...

Jim B

Toronto.
Probably woulda done a lot of good for Elvis if The Colonel DID get deported, and Elvis had had to get a new manager.
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Old 01-26-2014, 07:40 AM
 
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Exactly. One misdemeanor = not sufficient. The egging thing will likely not result in removal proceedings for him either. He'd have to really mess up big time with a drug conviction or some type of AF/CIMT for it to really be an issue.

Also he benefits from being in the Ninth Circuit which is by far the most hospitable to aliens. On top of that, we really don't want him gone. Say what you want about him but the other poster is right when he said that Biebs has created jobs for probably dozens of people and he is good for the economy. He's not some welfare leech wallowing in the dregs of society.
So he should get special treatment and we ought put up with this little twerp?

I'll take 100 fruit pickers and give them amnesty in exchange for deporting Bieber.
Not the best move economically, but it's high time we made an example out of someone to let everyone know that just because you're a celeb...does not make you above the law - or the rules of decent conduct.
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Old 01-26-2014, 07:41 AM
 
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He's a thug...give him some jail time and send him on his way. Thugs like that need to be put in their place.
No, he's a twerp who wants to be a thug.
And Miley Cyrus is a twerpette.
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Old 01-26-2014, 07:59 AM
 
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In this thread I keep reading we should keep him because he has created jobs for dozens of people.

That's C$&p...Hard drug dealers create jobs for thousands of people should we ignore them.

He is a guest in our country and not a good one....when he travels to other countries is is also a bad guest.

If possible it's time to send him home for good!

Gary
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