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Old 06-24-2008, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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I don't think we can ever be one big happy family. Someone put us on different continents for a reason............
Different cultures anymore are the main reason.
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Old 06-24-2008, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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For years I could see that History was in the proccess of repeating itself. And that our own Government had no intention of changing it.
The only difference is that, today segregation is being done willingly and not forcibly, Well,,,it may be done forcibly but not like it was before it was Prohibited.
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Old 06-24-2008, 03:38 PM
 
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In those days, we had just enough immigrants to make things interesting and keep new ideas coming but not in the overwelming numbers we have today.
You mean like Hong Kong

About 95% of Hong Kong's population is of Chinese descent, the majority of which is Cantonese or from ethnic groups such as Hakka and Teochew. Cantonese

The remaining 5% of the population is composed of non-ethnic Chinese forming a highly visible group despite their smaller numbers

Hong Kong has a fertility rate of 0.95 children per woman,[46] one of the lowest in the world and far below the 2.1 children per woman required to sustain the current population. However, population in Hong Kong continues to grow due to the influx of immigrants from mainland China approximating 45,000 per year.
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Old 06-24-2008, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Central NJ, USA
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You mean like Hong Kong

About 95% of Hong Kong's population is of Chinese descent, the majority of which is Cantonese or from ethnic groups such as Hakka and Teochew. Cantonese

The remaining 5% of the population is composed of non-ethnic Chinese forming a highly visible group despite their smaller numbers

Hong Kong has a fertility rate of 0.95 children per woman,[46] one of the lowest in the world and far below the 2.1 children per woman required to sustain the current population. However, population in Hong Kong continues to grow due to the influx of immigrants from mainland China approximating 45,000 per year.

Interesting factoids, but I am not sure what your larger point is?
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Old 06-24-2008, 11:21 PM
 
Location: California
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I can't believe you guys honestly believe the United States can't make it as a diverse country.

We're not seeing constant rioting, or large scale killings between races. Even the gangmembers are barely even killing gangmembers of other races. Much much less normal people.

People in general get along, and race relations in this country are better than they've ever been.
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Old 08-13-2008, 06:51 AM
 
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Default legal immigration and US education a curse for some

Illegal aliens’ problem has been one of the most important issues facing US Government. But does that guarantee that legal immigrants will be treated fairly? Certainly not, please read on.

But how are the legal aliens treated?
Does a legal alien really get right to live and work in US, after one has completely legitimate green card? The following description rebuts that.

Secondly, how credible are the US degrees inside US? Answer is ZERO. Please read.

I secured my MSEE from US and secured Green Card perfectly legitimately, through sponsorship by my brother. Just after I had those two documents, local cops everywhere starts demanding that I should not neither stay in US nor work in US.
The allegation was, and is, (hold your breath) that ‘I make too many mistakes’. The point worth noting is , along with the allegation, 24/7 relentless and intense harassment was initiated, which continues to date. Local police receives the instructions everywhere and start carrying out those instructions.
The 24/7, harassment is done using all kinds of equipment, even high tech. They have also indulged in other illegal activities, including, but not limited to, slandering, invasion of privacy and defamation by extensive use of loudspeakers .

I had complained to Office of Professional Responsibility, which was investigating complaints about illegal spying, which did not even acknowledge to the
There has so far been no case, no charges, no court intervention whatsoever, against me.]

There are millions of illegal immigrant in US , who have been working and living in US, some for years and years , without being bothered by law enforcement. Harassment, defamation, invasion of privacy are out of question. Most of them are uneducated and unskilled. And if they are apprehended, they are given right to defend themselves in courts.

I think inference is clear. I have read some posts resenting legal immigration also, implying that it should be limited it race wise, regardless of what the country may need in terms of manpower , skills.
It is entirely possible that somebody who believed in that, initiated my destruction.


Should one not curse the day, someone decides to come to US for so called higher education, immigrate and get stuck with this, when his own country could have offered a much brighter and trouble free life.

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Old 07-08-2009, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Centro Tejas
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I have no problems with LEGAL immigrants. I like diversity.
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Old 07-08-2009, 08:20 PM
 
Location: God's Gift to Mankind for flying anything
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We used to be the melting pot-people came here to become American and cut ties-as far as allegiances-to their prior country. I don't mean cut ties to culture, religion, food etc. But they learned English, wanted to be Americans and blended in. They became Americans in every sense of the meaning while bringing customs, etc. to mix into the great melting pot.
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That's how I came here in the early 60's. First, the US government *invited* us to come here.
By *us*, I mean those who were highly skilled in the aerospace industry. I was actually recruited right out of school .....
They even paid my way over here and gave me 65 dollars spending money .. for my trip.

However ...
I remember having to sign a piece of paper, that stated
*that I was willing to bear arms for the USA*.
So I duly registered for the *Draft*, which at that time was by chance/lottery.
So after all that, being recruited to work on the Space Programme,
I was Drafted only 5 weeks after I registered for the draft ....
Go figure ...
I did my time, served honourably, and
NEVER insisted that any document was in *my* native (NOT English !!!) language !!!!
Became a citizen of the USA as soon as I could, (why else would I like to come here for anyway ???)
and NEVER insisted to keep my original citizenship !!!!
I could have retained my original citizenship, but why ???
I have met a lot of people who have dual citizenship and they are so proud of that ...
again why did you come here for in the first place ????

I agree with some posters. When you come here,
come here to become an American, and for no other purpose !

BTW, after my separation of the Armed Services,
I continued on the Space Programme. Loved every minute of it.

Nuff sed.
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Old 07-08-2009, 09:41 PM
 
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I think that most employer sponsored legal immigration is okay, some of it good, some of it neutral because the employer must actually take financial responsibility and there is a cost involved in brringing in immigrants.

There should always be a good mix of immigrants if there are many immigrants brought in, they should not be too much of this or too much of that. It should be balanced and fair.

Family sponsored immigration is fine when it's spouse and minor aged children, but most of the rest is nothing but a scam. Family sponsors of immigrants rarely intend to buy siblings, grandparents, parents, cousins, aunts, and uncles they bring in health insurance or pay their bills after they sign the paper claiming they will be financially responsible for them.

Family sponsored immigration is grossly unfair because worthy immigration candidates are passed by where someone who isn't at all special simply has to have the right family connections and here they are.
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Old 07-08-2009, 09:43 PM
 
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I have no problems with LEGAL immigrants. I like diversity.
I like diversity too -- and when immigration is about the right reasons, you get a good mix of people from all over. When you have a good mix, people actually see the point in having a common language with which to communicate.
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