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Some intellectual food for the discussion of consequences for beliefs held and articulated.
As the debate over H-1B workers and skilled immigrants intensifies, we are losing sight of one important fact: The U.S. is no longer the only land of opportunity. If we don't want the immigrants who have fueled our innovation and economic growth, they now have options elsewhere. Immigrants are returning home in greater numbers. And new research shows they are returning to enjoy a better quality of life, better career prospects, and the comfort of being close to family and friends.
These foreign nationals have skills and knowledge that can help their home countries develop. I see them returning home as a good thing. If more Mexicans who were educated in the US returned home to help improve their country and to fight for the rights of the lower class in Mexico, illegal immigration would not be such a big issue.
The issue is one of a very serious brain drain and the link highlights that fact. From the link.
Why should we care? Because immigrants are critical to the country's long-term economic health. Despite the fact that they constitute only 12% of the U.S. population, immigrants have started 52% of Silicon Valley's technology companies and contributed to more than 25% of our global patents. They make up 24% of the U.S. science and engineering workforce holding bachelor's degrees and 47% of science and engineering workers who have PhDs. Immigrants have co-founded firms such as Google (NasdaqGS:GOOG - News), Intel (NasdaqGS:INTC - News), eBay (NasdaqGS:EBAY - News), and Yahoo! (NasdaqGS:YHOO - News).
These are not illegal immigrants but those who have come here legally and are returning home. If you ever have gone to a grad school graduation at a top 20 University you will see the ranks of many fields dominated by those with international names including patent law. A large number of patent law graduates are Chinese and many from the Indian Sub Continent. He who controls the patent controls the technology.
These foreign nationals have skills and knowledge that can help their home countries develop. I see them returning home as a good thing. If more Mexicans who were educated in the US returned home to help improve their country and to fight for the rights of the lower class in Mexico, illegal immigration would not be such a big issue.
We are in agreement!
But if we wouldn't let them in in the first place they would have no choice but to fix their country too.
That aside I see no trouble stemming from people leaving. Theres too many people here for my tastes anyway.
We are in agreement!
But if we wouldn't let them in in the first place they would have no choice but to fix their country too.
That aside I see no trouble stemming from people leaving. Theres too many people here for my tastes anyway.
If you read the link it is not about fixing their country it is about the creative ingenuity and entrepreneurship they have bought to this country. We are in a competitive race and can we afford to lose many of our brightest and best to our competition? Is that the future you want to obtain your vision of what America should look like? Do you really believe China needs fixing. They are bailing us out not us them.
Wouldn't it be neat for the US to spend some real resources on public education (especially the math and sciences) so that Americans would be at the heads of these startups?
On topic: yea, this isn't anywhere near good news for the U.S. as skilled immigrants have been massive contributors to the highly lucrative quaternary sector. And obviously, the U.S. doesn't have as large a pool of domestic talent as it should.
Wouldn't it be neat for the US to spend some real resources on public education (especially the math and sciences) so that Americans would be at the heads of these startups?
On topic: yea, this isn't anywhere near good news for the U.S. as skilled immigrants have been massive contributors to the highly lucrative quaternary sector. And obviously, the U.S. doesn't have as large a pool of domestic talent as it should.
Perhaps if our nation didn't dumb down our public education system and force teachers to teach a cirriculum gearded towards ensuring higher standardized test scores, American students would have a greater interest in learning. I doesn't help that our education system teaches to the least capable students, intead of challenging the most capable.
Wouldn't it be neat for the US to spend some real resources on public education (especially the math and sciences) so that Americans would be at the heads of these startups?
On topic: yea, this isn't anywhere near good news for the U.S. as skilled immigrants have been massive contributors to the highly lucrative quaternary sector. And obviously, the U.S. doesn't have as large a pool of domestic talent as it should.
In all fairness: one huge reason that many companies wanted the foreign talent was due to the lower wages they were willing to work for.
In all fairness: one huge reason that many companies wanted the foreign talent was due to the lower wages they were willing to work for.
Sorry you are wrong on this one.
Wage is set by USCIS for each profession. For example - for a programmer for with bachlors degree, the minumum wage is around $50K. But every companys at least 10% more that the minimum wage set by USCIS.
If you don't like this fact, you may want to write to your congressman/woman to increase mimimum wage so that companies have no incentive to hire foreign talent.
I’m sorry, but you are wrong on this one.
Minimum wage is set by USCIS for each profession/level/category. For example - for a (C# or VB.Net programmer – ignore this if you don’t understand what this is) programmer for with bachelor’s degree, the minimum wage is around $50K.
If you don't like this fact, you may want to write to your congressman/woman to increase minimum wage so that companies have no incentive to hire foreign talent. Sounds like a plan?
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