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Old 03-21-2009, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Denver
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With the economy as it is, are there any jobs in America where people feel we DO need legal immigrants?

The H-1B is typically used by people in the IT, telecoms, healthcare, accounting, teaching, legal, marketing and advertising and engineering industries.

Do we still need legal immigrants to fill these?
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Old 03-21-2009, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Legal immigrants are U.S. citizens; thus, entitled to whatever jobs are currently available. We can’t discriminate against legal immigrants, irrespective of our current economic woes. Do we need to welcome more legal immigrants at this time? No.

Conversely, as long as we don’t have enough jobs for U.S. citizens, I don’t believe we need H-1B Visa holders and other non-citizens. I don’t buy into the H-1B BS. I believe we have more than enough qualified workers to fill our IT and engineering positions.

BTW, where are all of the posters yearning to discuss legal immigration?

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Old 03-21-2009, 02:23 PM
 
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Legal immigrants are U.S. citizens; thus, entitled to whatever jobs are currently available. We can’t discriminate against legal immigrants, irrespective of our current economic woes. Do we need to welcome more legal immigrants at this time? No.

Conversely, as long as we don’t have enough jobs for U.S. citizens, I don’t believe we need H-1B Visa holders and other non-citizens. I don’t buy into the H-1B BS. I believe we have more than enough qualified workers to fill our IT and engineering positions.

BTW, where are all of the posters yearning to discuss legal immigration?
LOL, that shows how little you know about the U.S immigration system.Green card holders are legal immigrants but not U.S citizens.
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Old 03-21-2009, 02:35 PM
 
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LOL, that shows how little you know about the U.S immigration system.Green card holders are legal immigrants but not U.S citizens.
Apparently, you are the one who has no knowledge of the US immigration system. Legalized immigrants are naturalized citizens. Green card holders are visitors that have temporary permission to live and work in the US legally. The US has no obligation to grant them citizenship or allow them to remain present indefinitely. They are as eligible for deportation as DREAMies and other illegal aliens.

Therein lies the difference.
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Old 03-21-2009, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Legal immigrants are U.S. citizens; thus, entitled to whatever jobs are currently available. We can’t discriminate against legal immigrants, irrespective of our current economic woes. Do we need to welcome more legal immigrants at this time? No.

Conversely, as long as we don’t have enough jobs for U.S. citizens, I don’t believe we need H-1B Visa holders and other non-citizens. I don’t buy into the H-1B BS. I believe we have more than enough qualified workers to fill our IT and engineering positions.

BTW, where are all of the posters yearning to discuss legal immigration?
It will take time, since so many have been scared away.
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Old 03-21-2009, 02:37 PM
 
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Green card holders are certainly legal immigrations who - if they should want to - are well on their way to become actual citizens.

That said, no - I don't believe we need to fill those visas. I think we have a lot of high tech/white collar workers already to fill whatever drain that is perceived.
We do need farm laborers visas, that I will say. I think that would be very beneficial to the people who just want to cross the border, make some dough and go back home. It would be a win/win.
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Old 03-21-2009, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Healthcare, Professors and IT are the areas I think we still need immigrants to fill. It also seems we still need the summer agriculture jobs to be filled.

The demand of these jobs still outweigh the supply of Americans. Nursing is way short right now.
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Old 03-21-2009, 02:39 PM
 
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Apparently, you are the one who has no knowledge of the US immigration system. Legalized immigrants are naturalized citizens. Green card holders are visitors that have temporary permission to live and work in the US legally.

Therein lies the difference.
Pure ignorance( not surprisingly), green card holders have PERMANENT residency NOT temporary residence.

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This section of the USCIS Website provides you with information and directions necessary to apply for lawful permanent residence (LPR), or "green cards". You will have the opportunity to access information regarding ways to get a "green card". A "green card" gives you official immigration status (Lawful Permanent Residency) in the United states. If you already are a permanent resident, you may want to read, "Now That You Are A Permanent Reside
Permanent Resident (Green Card)
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Old 03-21-2009, 02:41 PM
 
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Pure ignorance, green card holders have PERMANENT residency NOT temporary residence.



Permanent Resident (Green Card)
Really? If that's the case prey tell why do their green cards have to be renewed in order for them to remain in the US legally? You claimed that they are citizens.

Speaking of ignorance, I will refrain from commenting on the state of your bliss.

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Green Card refers to the official card issued by the US government to lawful permanent residents (immigrants) as evidence of their authorization to live and work in the United States. It is officially called Form I-551, the Permanent Resident Card (formerly known as the Alien Registration Receipt Card). It is commonly called the Green Card not because of its current color, but because of the original color of the card many years ago.
If you are already a Green Card holder…

You should be aware that Green Cards issued since the end of 1989 have an expiration date on the front of the Green Card with a ten-year validity. If you were issued your Green Card about 10 years ago and the Green Card has an expiration date on it, you should check the expiration date to see when your Green Card needs to be renewed. Green Cards issued from 1977 to 1989 that do not have an expiration date will remain valid until implements an official replacement program in the future.

http://foreignborn.com/visas_imm/imm...reen_cards.htm
So you were saying?

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Old 03-21-2009, 02:47 PM
 
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I would say for now, with millions of American unemployed, we are not in a position to have much immigration legal or illegal.

States like California are on the brink of collapse.

Even when times get better, I don't think immigration should be just about money. Those coming here should want to actually become Americans, be a true part of our society which means adapting to our ways, learning our language. Money isn't everything. Coming here shouldn't be just some kind of get-rich quick scam.
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