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A grand-total of 400,000 green-cards per year. East Asia includes Australia. 20% alloted for each region.
Temporary guest worker program with the same rules and good for only 2 years, with no path to green card. 500,000 per year. This would be a single system general work visa which gives point system preference to career fields the Department of Labor cites as in a labor shortage(sliding scale) on a yearly basis.
They're both bad options. I don't think that the virtue of having a US citizen brother is enough to justify a LPR. I also think it's foolish to allot green cards by flat total per geographic region as some regions stated are far more populous or productive than others.
We should have skill-based immigration and marriage-based immigration only.
Every graduate from a US university with a technical degree and a high GPA should be awarded an automatic green card, to encourage them to stay and contribute to our economy and give them better salary negotiating power than the current H1-b system.
The temporary guest worker program should include a pathway to LPR and citizenship. How invested in their job is a "guest worker" going to be if they are required to "get out" after 2 years? What incentive will illegals have to stop jumping the border and "get in line" if there's no line for them to get in?
Why should it be Europe's fault that they didn't breed to huge numbers the way South Asia has? As far as no line to get in. That's the point. They would know to come here to work and that's it. No one can complain. The workers have their higher pay, business has their labor they whine about, Americans will deal with a legal work force capped at only 1 million at any particular time(currently that number is in the multiple millions) and 400,000 people gaining residence is a alot more digestible then the current numbers, 1+ million per year.
Oh, and those temporary workers cannot not bring family members and if they have a child with another temporary worker on U.S. soil, that child will be a citizen of the country the parents come from. No more birthright citizenship.
Why should it be Europe's fault that they didn't breed to huge numbers the way South Asia has? As far as no line to get in. That's the point. They would know to come here to work and that's it. No one can complain. The workers have their higher pay, business has their labor they whine about, Americans will deal with a legal work force capped at only 1 million at any particular time(currently that number is in the multiple millions) and 400,000 people gaining residence is a alot more digestible then the current numbers, 1+ million per year.
Oh, and those temporary workers cannot not bring family members and if they have a child with another temporary worker on U.S. soil, that child will be a citizen of the country the parents come from. No more birthright citizenship.
Welcome to the US labor camp! Outsource your top talent only!
Sounds like the system in Kuwait.
Why should it be Europe's fault that they didn't breed to huge numbers the way South Asia has? As far as no line to get in. That's the point. They would know to come here to work and that's it. No one can complain. The workers have their higher pay, business has their labor they whine about, Americans will deal with a legal work force capped at only 1 million at any particular time(currently that number is in the multiple millions) and 400,000 people gaining residence is a alot more digestible then the current numbers, 1+ million per year.
Oh, and those temporary workers cannot not bring family members and if they have a child with another temporary worker on U.S. soil, that child will be a citizen of the country the parents come from. No more birthright citizenship.
Your ideas just get worse and worse. Europe hardly exports any technical talent anymore. Most current European immigrants come on family or diversity lottery visas (both bad ideas) and those who are considered "skilled labor" are chefs, photographers, publicists, and the like rather than the engineers and scientists that we get from Asia and the Middle East.
Region-based immigration is essentially already in place with the ill-advised Diversity Lottery visa program, so you're not suggesting anything new, just championing an idea that turned out to be a failure.
Temporary work visas have been implemented in many countries and found to cause more problems than they solve. For example; in Taiwan there is a major issue with Vietnamese immigrants who come to work, then simply "disappear" when their visa is up. Taiwan doesn't have birthright citizenship, but that doesn't stop large illegal immigrant communities from forming from those workers who overstay their visas. And, yes, they have much more aggressive tracking and enforcement (after all, they're a island about the size of Illinois) than we do with ICE, and yes, the temporary workers aren't allowed to bring their families, and no, it doesn't solve the problem, it just drives the illegals underground causing even more social problems with illegals than we have. Same story in Saudi Arabia, same story in the UAE, same story in Japan.
Furthermore, unlike these example countries, we share a land border with our largest supplier of temporary workers, and no matter how much money you waste fortifying it, some people will get through.
So no, these are bad ideas.
Skill-based immigration is the way to go for white-collar labor.
To cut down on illegal immigration, we should implement a strict but reasonable path to citizenship for those people who apply, get and hold down a job, and keep themselves and their family above the poverty level and paying taxes for a certain number of years. This promotes investment in their jobs and communities much better than having big collections of a bunch of single "temporary laborers" who know they're going to get kicked out in 2 years.
Your ideas just get worse and worse. Europe hardly exports any technical talent anymore. Most current European immigrants come on family or diversity lottery visas (both bad ideas) and those who are considered "skilled labor" are chefs, photographers, publicists, and the like rather than the engineers and scientists that we get from Asia and the Middle East.
Region-based immigration is essentially already in place with the ill-advised Diversity Lottery visa program, so you're not suggesting anything new, just championing an idea that turned out to be a failure.
Temporary work visas have been implemented in many countries and found to cause more problems than they solve. For example; in Taiwan there is a major issue with Vietnamese immigrants who come to work, then simply "disappear" when their visa is up. Taiwan doesn't have birthright citizenship, but that doesn't stop large illegal immigrant communities from forming from those workers who overstay their visas. And, yes, they have much more aggressive tracking and enforcement (after all, they're a island about the size of Illinois) than we do with ICE, and yes, the temporary workers aren't allowed to bring their families, and no, it doesn't solve the problem, it just drives the illegals underground causing even more social problems with illegals than we have. Same story in Saudi Arabia, same story in the UAE, same story in Japan.
Furthermore, unlike these example countries, we share a land border with our largest supplier of temporary workers, and no matter how much money you waste fortifying it, some people will get through.
So no, these are bad ideas.
Skill-based immigration is the way to go for white-collar labor.
To cut down on illegal immigration, we should implement a strict but reasonable path to citizenship for those people who apply, get and hold down a job, and keep themselves and their family above the poverty level and paying taxes for a certain number of years. This promotes investment in their jobs and communities much better than having big collections of a bunch of single "temporary laborers" who know they're going to get kicked out in 2 years.
Tell your friends.
These communities you talk about in Japan, Taiwan, Korea etc. are infintismal in size in comparison with the United States. So no, I don't think this system is a bad idea. Labor is very tightly controlled in the Gulf Arab States. What are you talking about? clueless
These communities you talk about in Japan, Taiwan, Korea etc. are infintismal in size in comparison with the United States. So no, I don't think this system is a bad idea.
You are correct, now try applying logic.
Taiwan, for instance, is indeed much smaller than the United States. Crime is lower, police control is tighter, nationalism is higher as is respect for authority. Birthright citizenship does not exist, and the island is surrounded by water with no shared land borders and tightly controlled ports.
Even with all these factors in place, they cannot control their small number of guest workers.
How can the United States, with huge expanses of open land, loose to nonexistent police control in many areas, enormous stretches of unpatrolled land borders, birthright citizenship, and a slew of anti-government and anti-authoritarian ideologies ever hope to control a much larger population of guest workers who will spread throughout the country uncontrolled?
The fact of the matter is that your pie-in-the-sky proposals have no connection to the reality of the situation we face, and that you have little grasp of the realities of immigration, legal and illegal.
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Labor is very tightly controlled in the Gulf Arab States. What are you talking about? clueless
Labor conditions for temporary "guest workers" in these states are often cited as being similar to slavery. How long do you think such similar conditions would be tolerated by decent people in the United States before public opinion turned against such practices?
Why should it be Europe's fault that they didn't breed to huge numbers the way South Asia has? As far as no line to get in. That's the point. They would know to come here to work and that's it. No one can complain. The workers have their higher pay, business has their labor they whine about, Americans will deal with a legal work force capped at only 1 million at any particular time(currently that number is in the multiple millions) and 400,000 people gaining residence is a alot more digestible then the current numbers, 1+ million per year.
Oh, and those temporary workers cannot not bring family members and if they have a child with another temporary worker on U.S. soil, that child will be a citizen of the country the parents come from. No more birthright citizenship.
For most who come to America it's like hitting the lotto . Instant welfare, education, shelter, food, license and all this increases with every child you have or relative you bring in through chain immigration .
Immigrants should be screened for health, should have money and learn language before any citizenship is granted .
This insane loss of soverignty will destroy this nation for us all, including the immigrants . We need limits on immigrants and guarded borders locked shut .
Of course this will never happen and soon we will all be in a third world fighting over resources under dictators .
Taiwan, for instance, is indeed much smaller than the United States. Crime is lower, police control is tighter, nationalism is higher as is respect for authority. Birthright citizenship does not exist, and the island is surrounded by water with no shared land borders and tightly controlled ports.
Even with all these factors in place, they cannot control their small number of guest workers.
How can the United States, with huge expanses of open land, loose to nonexistent police control in many areas, enormous stretches of unpatrolled land borders, birthright citizenship, and a slew of anti-government and anti-authoritarian ideologies ever hope to control a much larger population of guest workers who will spread throughout the country uncontrolled?
The fact of the matter is that your pie-in-the-sky proposals have no connection to the reality of the situation we face, and that you have little grasp of the realities of immigration, legal and illegal.
Labor conditions for temporary "guest workers" in these states are often cited as being similar to slavery. How long do you think such similar conditions would be tolerated by decent people in the United States before public opinion turned against such practices?
Even if you compare Taiwan with the U.S. on a even ratio basis, Taiwan has a much lower prevelence of uncontrolled invisible ex-guest workers. And if you can't compare the Arab states with the U.S., why did you bring it up in the first place? Your arguements are baseless and lacking a sort of pre-thought thoroughness. If the U.S. is truly powerless in regards to our borders, we would have been overrun long ago. If the businesses get their needed labor under my guidelines, the vast amount of influence and resources for mass-immigration will dry up like a desert lake.
Even if you compare Taiwan with the U.S. on a even ratio basis, Taiwan has a much lower prevelence of uncontrolled invisible ex-guest workers.
True enough. But--as I pointed out--because of Taiwan's geographical location and society, the majority of those illegals are from their guest worker program, and the number is high enough that strict controls are in place including jail time for businessmen who knowingly employ illegals more than once.
The point of my argument is that the evidence clearly shows guest worker programs LEAD to illegal immigration, the very thing you suggest we can AVOID by greater utilization of guest worker programs. Explain how you can suggest your proposed effect of guest worker legislation is preventing illegal immigration when that idea clearly runs counter historical fact.
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And if you can't compare the Arab states with the U.S., why did you bring it up in the first place?
You can certainly compare Arab states with the US. UAE-style strict guest worker programs will not work here where government control is less absolute and societal standards are different.
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If the U.S. is truly powerless in regards to our borders, we would have been overrun long ago. If the businesses get their needed labor under my guidelines, the vast amount of influence and resources for mass-immigration will dry up like a desert lake.
Border protection is costly and difficult. The best way to secure the border is--as you note--to remove the incentive to cross. A few hundred thousand temporary work visas issued to large employers aren't going to do anything about the millions of illegals who have found and will continue to find day labor which pays better than their former jobs in their home country. Illegals will have little incentive to apply for a temporary visa which lasts only 2 years and doesn't give them a chance to make a better life for themselves and their families. Your plan will do nothing to address the root causes and support which keeps illegal immigration going.
However, if you add a pathway to legal residency for those who follow the rules and find gainful employment, and make it clear that those who take the illegal path will never gain their citizenship, you will see a shift toward legal immigration. As of now, there is no way for a immigrant without an advanced technical degree or family connections to immigrate legally to the United States. Thus an influx of illegals, because they have nothing to lose and no other option.
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