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Old 11-09-2014, 06:23 PM
 
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will allentown or bethlehem be the larger, more successful city in the future? which one will become the urban hub of the whole region?
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Old 11-09-2014, 10:47 PM
 
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Allentown is very densely populated. The 50K people who live in the 3.5 square miles of 18101 and 18102 are more densely populated than Pittsburgh. Something incredibly drastic would have to happen to make Allentown have a lower population than Bethlehem.

But Allentown has a murder every few weeks or months. People may get scared off if some rich people are randomly killed.
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Old 11-10-2014, 01:51 AM
 
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will allentown or bethlehem be the larger?
To be more specific about the residential zoning
3864.6 acres zoned residential 19.4 people per acre 8.1 houses per acre BETHLEHEM
3562.8 acres zoned residential 33.1 people per acre 13.2 houses per acre ALLENTOWN
761.3 acres zoned residential 35.2 people per acre 13.6 houses per acre EASTON

Although both cities have similar amount of acreage zoned residential (Beth larger by 8% than Allentown), the density of houses and people is over 60% higher.

Nothing short of a natural disaster is going to make those quantities nearly equal.

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more successful city in the future? which one will become the urban hub of the whole region?
Allentown has $5 billion of assessed value of taxable real estate, but 25.8% population below poverty
Bethlehem has $2.5 billion of assessed value of taxable real estate.

But Upper Saucon Township has $2 billion of assessed value and less than 1 house per acre.

So the urban area will always be labelled Allentown, but the wealth has gone to the townships long ago.
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Old 11-11-2014, 07:27 AM
 
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Paco is correct, the "wealth" truly has "gone to the townships". But the entire area is often described with a regional perspective. For example, large portions of South Whitehall Township and Salisbury Township are Allentown addresses. They have essentially become extensions of the cities; but offer better schools and safer communities, while sharing the Allentown name.
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Old 11-13-2014, 12:59 AM
 
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But the entire area is often described with a regional perspective. For example, large portions of South Whitehall Township and Salisbury Township are Allentown addresses. They have essentially become extensions of the cities; but offer better schools and safer communities, while sharing the Allentown name.
The concept of "urban area" is defined by US Census bureau, and ignores metropolitan, county and state boundaries so that a common definition is used.
  • Allentown PA is a city of 18.0 square miles with a population of 118,577
  • Nashville, Tennessee is a city of 496.8 square miles with a population of 601,222.
  • Allentown "urban area" is 346.3 square miles with a population of 664,651
  • Nashville-Davidson, "urban area" is 1,459.4 square miles with a population of 969,587.

PA has probably the narrowest definition of municipality in the 50 states. In much of the rest of the country what we call municipalities would be districts of larger cities.

The concept of "urban area" attempts to ignore all local and state government and apply a common set of rules to all the urban regions of the country. It is a little narrower than the concept of metropolitan statistical areas which mostly respects county boundaries.

The Allentown-Bethlehem-Easton, Metropolitan Statistical Area. in the 2010 United States Census had a population of 821,173 which is higher than 667K, but covers a much greater physical area.
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