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Old 10-09-2008, 04:19 PM
 
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Do you think it's fair that bar's now have to fight and pay extra for the right to have smokers in their place? I think being cigarettes are still legal and a main funder of political campaigns/lobbyist in politics it just seems unfair.
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Old 10-09-2008, 05:52 PM
 
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I think it's not unfair at all. Just because something is legal, does not mean I choose to inhale it. I couldn't be happier that PA is finally going smoke-free.
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Old 10-09-2008, 06:19 PM
 
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I think it's not unfair at all. Just because something is legal, does not mean I choose to inhale it. I couldn't be happier that PA is finally going smoke-free.

Actually we are not smoke free. Most bars send in a request for exemption and many more are following. I predict this will be overthrown. I think it's a choice not a law. There are many non smoking establishements that you can goto. With the money tobacco companies have, I can promise you this will be gone shortly. Somerthing like this should have been put to the public for a vote.
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Old 10-09-2008, 06:34 PM
 
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I love the non-smoking atmosphere, not that I visit a lot of bars anyway, but when I go I like knowing I'll come home not smelling like someone else's cancer stick.
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Old 10-09-2008, 06:58 PM
 
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I think this is going to cause more layoffs and small business people losing income. I know many people who only smoke when drinking. When business lose patrons which is already happening, what happens then?
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Old 10-10-2008, 04:00 AM
 
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I think this is going to cause more layoffs and small business people losing income. I know many people who only smoke when drinking. When business lose patrons which is already happening, what happens then?
Won't happen that way at all. Please, if places much bigger than PA (for example NYC) can successfully go smoke-free, we will do just fine. The people you are talking about are a very small piece of the spending pie.
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Old 10-10-2008, 06:12 AM
 
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About a year ago LA went smoke free and I think the way if fell out was that if 51% of the establishment's income came from food then it was non-smoking. If 51% came from sale of alcohol then smoking was allowed.

I personally like the no smoking laws. I should not have to be affectted by someone elses addictions. It is nice to enjoy a meal and not have the smoke in my face.

From an economic point, I agree that it will have little effect on the economy, in the whole scheme of things, smokers are in the minority and that population will continure to decline..
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Old 10-15-2008, 08:32 PM
 
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I think this is going to cause more layoffs and small business people losing income. I know many people who only smoke when drinking. When business lose patrons which is already happening, what happens then?
Wow, I guess being from New England I am surprised that Pennsylvania still allows smoking in eating or drinking establishments! This was banned in most New England states years ago and I know of no establishment, restaurant or bar, that closed because of lack of business due to the loss of smokers. In fact, even smokers had problems in smoked filled bars, but since the ban these people linger longer in the bars and buy more drinks or food. Restaurants with good food do not want their food to be tainted by cigarette smoke. Non-smokers have come out to also visit these establishments which they had avoided. Separate sections did not work, smoke spilled over. I never would have gone to a smoke filled bar to watch a sporting event, but now I am a customer. And believe me there are more like me who chose not to go to bars or restaurants because of the smoke. How many are there in Pennsylvania who feel the same? These people will more than replace those who choose not to go because they cannot smoke.
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