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Old 12-30-2009, 10:02 PM
 
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That 60k estimate seems accurate, as I remember seeing a report in 2006 stating 45k from 2001-2005. Not all of it came from NY/NJ, as a good number of people came up from Philly too. Gas prices helped to mitigate the influx even before the economy did.

I have heard of some people moving back, but certainly not to the degree that they came here. I would imagine that most of them spent the profits from selling their original NY/NJ house, and there is not as much money in their bank accounts to buy another house where they came from.
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Old 03-14-2013, 08:57 AM
 
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Lehigh Valley will continue to be the fastest growing (by population) area of Pennsylvania.
50 year average population increase (1960-2010)
0.2% PENNSYLVANIA
3.0% Monroe
1.4% Bucks
0.9% Lehigh
0.8% Northampton
0.4% Carbon
0.7% NEW JERSEY
1.7% Hunterdon
1.1% Warren

Here is a prediction from 3.5 years ago. Do you think it came true? What would be a good measure of it's truth?

Far and away the fastest growing county by percentage was Forest County in Western PA. However, it's absolute population went from 4,946 in 2000 to 7,716 in 2010. That works out to roughly an average of 2 new houses per week over the decade. So strictly speaking percentage is not a good measure.
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:26 PM
 
Location: PA/FL/UT
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Old 03-14-2013, 04:03 PM
 
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Census Bureau

These are the numbers from 2000-2010 (percentage and absolute numbers of people added

Excluding the three counties with large percentages, but smaller population it seems to me that the real growth is in the five counties along the Maryland border (not the NJ border). Or you might just say it is suburban Philadelphia.

-14.90% Cameron -890
-9.00% Elk -3,159
-8.10% Fayette -12,040
-6.00% Beaver -10,885
-5.80% Cambria -8,846
-5.40% McKean -2,480
-4.90% Greene -1,993
-4.80% Armstrong -3,476
-4.70% Warren -2,062
-4.60% Allegheny -58,987
-4.50% Venango -2,590
-4.30% Clarion -1,796
-3.70% Lawrence -3,500
-3.40% Potter -614
-3.30% Lycoming -3,962
-3.00% Mercer -3,607
-2.90% Somerset -2,321
-2.10% Clearfield -1,751
-2.00% Sullivan -131
-1.80% Crawford -1,627
-1.60% Blair -2,066
-1.60% Jefferson -734
-1.40% Schuylkill -2,105
-1.30% Westmoreland -4,809
-0.80% Indiana -716
-0.40% Bedford -199
-0.20% Bradford -125
-0.10% Erie -280
0.00% Northumberland 0
0.20% Montour 37
0.40% Mifflin 186
0.50% Lackawanna 1,067
0.50% Luzerne 1,597
0.60% Philadelphia 9,102
0.70% Wyoming 197
0.70% Huntingdon 320
1.50% Delaware 8,261
1.50% Tioga 621
2.40% Washington 4,871
2.60% Susquehanna 1,099
3.50% Clinton 1,327
4.10% Fulton 585
4.60% Bucks 27,497
4.90% Columbia 3,144
5.40% Perry 2,356
5.60% Butler 9,751
5.70% Snyder 2,141
6.50% Dauphin 16,363
6.60% Montgomery 49,524
8.00% Juniata 1,825
8.00% Union 3,330
10.10% Berks 37,744
10.20% Cumberland 21,789
10.40% Lancaster 48,934
10.70% Wayne 5,106
11.00% Lebanon 13,237
11.00% Carbon 6,467
11.10% Adams 10,132
11.50% Northampton 30,709
12.00% Lehigh 37,447
13.40% Centre 18,197
13.90% York 53,083
15.10% Chester 65,449
15.70% Franklin 20,303
22.50% Monroe 31,196
23.90% Pike 11,067
56.00% Forest 2,770

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Old 03-14-2013, 11:41 PM
 
Location: Lehighton/Jim Thorpe area
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Lehigh County has been the fastest growing county in the state for the past two years, with its population increasing by 1.64 percent. That's a nice sign for the region, IMO, although I'm sure someone will now dispute that...
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Old 03-15-2013, 07:39 AM
 
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Lehigh County has been the fastest growing county in the state for the past two years, with its population increasing by 1.64 percent. That's a nice sign for the region, IMO, although I'm sure someone will now dispute that...
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These are the numbers from 2000-2010 (percentage and absolute numbers of people added

10.10% Berks 37,744
10.20% Cumberland 21,789
10.40% Lancaster 48,934
10.70% Wayne 5,106
11.00% Lebanon 13,237
11.00% Carbon 6,467
11.10% Adams 10,132
11.50% Northampton 30,709
12.00% Lehigh 37,447
13.40% Centre 18,197
13.90% York 53,083
15.10% Chester 65,449
15.70% Franklin 20,303
22.50% Monroe 31,196
23.90% Pike 11,067
56.00% Forest 2,770
There is no disputing that Lehigh County had the biggest percentage increase from 2010-2012. The question is it meaningful over the short term, or should we look longer term. Should we consider 2 year, 10 years or 50 years before dubbing an area the fastest growing area of Pennsylvania.

I think that over the last decade the 170K increase in York Lancaster and Chester County along MD border represents more serious growth than the 108K increase in Lehigh , Northampton and Berks.
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:29 AM
 
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Census: Record 1 in 3 US counties are now dying

This headline strikes me as funny. It means that the rate of natural increase (i.e. births - deaths) is a negative number in 1 out of 3 counties.

It is hardly news. We knew it was coming since the end of the baby boom in the 1960's. That's why they changed the immigration laws in 1965 so that more people would come and keep the population increasing. Without immigration the USA would have topped off at about 250 million people. Instead we are at 315.5 million and expected to grow for the forseeable future (at least 50-100 years).

Back to Pennsylvania. In 40 out of 67 counties more people are dying than being born. In 35 out of 67 counties, more people are leaving than coming in. Only 15 counties have positive natural increase and positive immigration. Lehigh has both a high birth rate than normal for PA, and also positive immigration. Lehigh is higher than Northampton on both measures.
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Old 03-15-2013, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Lehighton/Jim Thorpe area
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There is no disputing that Lehigh County had the biggest percentage increase from 2010-2012. The question is it meaningful over the short term, or should we look longer term. Should we consider 2 year, 10 years or 50 years before dubbing an area the fastest growing area of Pennsylvania.

I think that over the last decade the 170K increase in York Lancaster and Chester County along MD border represents more serious growth than the 108K increase in Lehigh , Northampton and Berks.
I think it remains to be seen, though, if the area will sustain that growth. Personally I think it will, especially with people moving here from NY/NJ to escape high home prices and taxes, plus the introduction of new businesses to the area that we've seen over the past year.
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