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Old 12-03-2010, 04:07 AM
 
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Well I'm a UK graduate. I know Lexington well dude. Not to mention spending summers with grandparents who still live there, in an older neighborhood not far from downtown.

Ummmmmm, I did check census stats. The population of Lexington is right at 300,000! Now go do your research! Grrrr
Kerry, you're just too funny dude.
Good freakin' God. You're still not getting it.

And no offense, but I'll believe you graduated from UK (or any decent university) when pigs fly. You can barely string together a couple sentences on an internet forum & your cognitive ability seems to be lacking since you still aren't understanding what I'm telling you.

Look at a POPULATION LAYOUT MAP FOR THE ZIP CODES I PROVIDED. It will show you where people live & how many are there. You'll see that the core of the city has hardly anyone living in it at all & the population grows tremendously as you move outwards.

You're talking about sprawl & that's the definition of it. Jesus, shut up already about the overall population of Fayette County.
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Old 12-03-2010, 08:49 AM
 
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Good freakin' God. You're still not getting it.

And no offense, but I'll believe you graduated from UK (or any decent university) when pigs fly. You can barely string together a couple sentences on an internet forum & your cognitive ability seems to be lacking since you still aren't understanding what I'm telling you.

Look at a POPULATION LAYOUT MAP FOR THE ZIP CODES I PROVIDED. It will show you where people live & how many are there. You'll see that the core of the city has hardly anyone living in it at all & the population grows tremendously as you move outwards.

You're talking about sprawl & that's the definition of it. Jesus, shut up already about the overall population of Fayette County.
You have to look at it relative the size of the area the zip code encompasses though

Not sure if that changes the results
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Old 12-04-2010, 12:23 AM
 
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You have to look at it relative the size of the area the zip code encompasses though

Not sure if that changes the results
Well, we know overall population is estimated to be somewhere between 270k-300k (prob more in the middle) in the entire Lexington metro (Fayette Co) area. And those 3 zip codes (which encompass all of the downtown area) are estimated to only have around 2k-3k full time residents from last Census check.

So given the overall population of the area & the land those zip codes cover (which is a decent size), that's pretty bad & just shows us how much work needs to be done to wrangle in some of this sprawl & get more infill into Lex's core.

You can never be a good vibrant city with an identity of your own if your "city" part is virtually non-existent & doesn't have any residents (or you're not giving people a reason to want to live there). It'll just be a collection of ho-hum cookie cutter suburbs. Nothing wrong with suburbs, but you don't your town to ONLY be that.

The sad part is, Lex does have a lot to work with in the core (like the historic areas above 3rd street aren't being utilized like they should be), but they either won't try or come up with God awful plans that ultimately fail (CentrePointe). Downtown is actually worse off than it was 5-10 years ago (and it wasn't great then). I hope they get it together, I really do.

Anyways, that to me is what Lex needs the most. We have enough retail already & stuff like that, so all that other crap can wait.
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Old 12-05-2010, 03:57 PM
 
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I would like to see a Costco and Trader Joe's.
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Old 12-05-2010, 07:34 PM
 
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Well, we know overall population is estimated to be somewhere between 270k-300k (prob more in the middle) in the entire Lexington metro (Fayette Co) area. And those 3 zip codes (which encompass all of the downtown area) are estimated to only have around 2k-3k full time residents from last Census check.

So given the overall population of the area & the land those zip codes cover (which is a decent size), that's pretty bad & just shows us how much work needs to be done to wrangle in some of this sprawl & get more infill into Lex's core.

You can never be a good vibrant city with an identity of your own if your "city" part is virtually non-existent & doesn't have any residents (or you're not giving people a reason to want to live there). It'll just be a collection of ho-hum cookie cutter suburbs. Nothing wrong with suburbs, but you don't your town to ONLY be that.

The sad part is, Lex does have a lot to work with in the core (like the historic areas above 3rd street aren't being utilized like they should be), but they either won't try or come up with God awful plans that ultimately fail (CentrePointe). Downtown is actually worse off than it was 5-10 years ago (and it wasn't great then). I hope they get it together, I really do.

Anyways, that to me is what Lex needs the most. We have enough retail already & stuff like that, so all that other crap can wait.

I ran some numbers (source, which could be a tad off, linked; used current population which I presume is pre-2010 Census release)

pop sq mi zip # pop per sq mi
37746 6.23 40517 6059
16215 3.04 40514 5334
1849 0.4 40507 4623 downtown
21259 4.96 40508 4286 downtown
24331 5.78 40504 4210
26557 7.09 40502 3746 downtown
26656 7.71 40505 3457
29237 8.99 40503 3252
11402 14.39 40513 792
33637 44.6 40509 754
37066 54.64 40515 678
2829 30.22 40516 94
775 21.68 40510 36
269559

LEXINGTON, KY - ZIP Code Database, ZIP Code Maps
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Old 12-06-2010, 06:43 PM
 
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To consider the 40502 zip as part of downtown is ludicrous, especially the sprawling parts of it out by Lansdowne. Why not just use the census tracts surrounding the downtown area and calculate the population per square mile there.

This trying to justify sprawl by zip code is ignorant.
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Old 12-07-2010, 10:14 AM
 
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To consider the 40502 zip as part of downtown is ludicrous, especially the sprawling parts of it out by Lansdowne. Why not just use the census tracts surrounding the downtown area and calculate the population per square mile there.

This trying to justify sprawl by zip code is ignorant.
So you don't consider E Main Street, E High, Woodland, Euclid, part of the downtown core?? Anyways, if I didn't include it, the numbers would be even more abysmal.

And if you have a better method of determining population with any degree of accuracy besides using zips we're all ears.
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Old 12-07-2010, 01:36 PM
 
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What I don't consider as downtown is the portion of 40502 which covers Lansdowne, Merrick Place or Richmond Rd out near Idle Hour.

Try using the census tracts 1-10 & 18 and their populations per sq. mi.

1 .81 6071.8
2 .61 6230.5
3 .41 8067.3
4 .45 5257.8
5 .59 5895.5
6 .83 5197.6
7 .32 6894.9
8.01 .36 12226.5
8.02 .38 9202.5
9 .84 2958.5
10 .61 1747.9
18 .34 8006.9

Most of the other tracts don't come close to this as you move farther out toward New Circle Rd. See link below.

Fayette County, Kentucky by Census Tract - GCT-PH1. Population, Housing Units, Area, and Density:**2000

PS. I don't think that you are all ears, it is more like all mouth.
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Old 12-07-2010, 07:49 PM
 
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All you have to do to determine whether Lexington's core is dead or not is to go to downtown Milwaukee, Chicago, Cleveland, Minneapolis, New York, Nashville, Atlanta, etc. etc. and notice the liveliness and activity on the streets.

Then cruise through Lexington's CBD and try to find anything interesting.
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Old 12-07-2010, 08:51 PM
 
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All you have to do to determine whether Lexington's core is dead or not is to go to downtown Milwaukee, Chicago, Cleveland, Minneapolis, New York, Nashville, Atlanta, etc. etc. and notice the liveliness and activity on the streets.

Then cruise through Lexington's CBD and try to find anything interesting.
Nashville, being just a bit smaller than Milwaukee and the smallest on your list, is still approximately 4x the size of the Lexington metro area. Does the concept of "scale" even appear on your radar?

Size AND density are equally important parts of the equation.
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