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Old 02-11-2011, 05:27 PM
 
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Plus the fact that when they DO work , they're off at 3pm....
To be fair, they do start earlier then the regular employee. I don't think teachers have an easy job, it's just that plenty of people would be more than happy to teach on Long Island for $60,000/year. Common business sense would tell any employer that if they could choose between someone who wanted $140,000 and someone who wanted $60,000 for the same job with the same skill level, the employer would obviously take the $60,000 employee.

Plus, the Sachem official quoted in Newsday said that the younger (and cheaper) teachers are actually better trained because they know how to utilize all the technology resources that the older (higher paid) teachers are unable to utilize to the same level.
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Old 02-12-2011, 04:57 AM
 
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To be fair, they do start earlier then the regular employee. I don't think teachers have an easy job, it's just that plenty of people would be more than happy to teach on Long Island for $60,000/year. Common business sense would tell any employer that if they could choose between someone who wanted $140,000 and someone who wanted $60,000 for the same job with the same skill level, the employer would obviously take the $60,000 employee.

Plus, the Sachem official quoted in Newsday said that the younger (and cheaper) teachers are actually better trained because they know how to utilize all the technology resources that the older (higher paid) teachers are unable to utilize to the same level.
Here is a plan you should like: After 15 years of experience the teachers should receive cuts equal to the less experienced teachers' raises. This will keep the pay for the more experienced about the same (over the long run) as the less experienced and insure they are all bankrupt by age 55 or so. This will show how important technology is. Since they all only work 6.5 hours a day for 183 days a year and never work at all at home or after school they should be grateful for any raises or salary cuts at all. This will keep our property taxes lower too.
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Old 02-12-2011, 05:42 AM
 
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And in Garden City, 2 of the board members belong to the teacher's union. Nice, huh?
Do they belong to the Garden City Teachers Union or NYS Union of Teachers?
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Old 02-12-2011, 11:29 AM
 
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These salaries are an obsene misuse of taxpayer dollars. However they're reall just a smokscreen.The real problem is teachers salaries, benefits & pension contributions which takes up about 75% of all school budgets. The typical top pay teacher on LI costs taxpayers about $1000.00 ( counting salary, benefits & pension contributions)for each day they work.

By the way that workday in a typical HS involves less then 4 hrs actually teaching kids.
Smokescreen...there are districts with forty administrators! That is not a smokescreen, that is precisely the issue. I thought everyone (including the governor) had caught on to the actual administrative expense. Just cut half of these non-teachers and save millions. It is not the old days when there were just a few administrators per district and their pay approximated teacher pay. By the way these folks spend 0 hours actually teaching kids.
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Old 02-12-2011, 03:08 PM
 
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Old 02-12-2011, 03:35 PM
 
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Here's a personal favorite from your list-this guy is an ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT .

Syosset Central Schools Syosset Central Schools (Professional) Streitman, Jeffrey B Ndr $335,749 2009

Anyone who is living in yesteryear about the number of administrators bankrupting the system should see your list for a partial compilation of the highest paid administrators (some districts have six or seven alone that make more then the governor.
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Old 02-12-2011, 04:56 PM
 
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I wonder if any of these $300k administrators can explain why every school I pass in the evening has EVERY classroom light on at 10 PM, and why all the athletic fields are completely lighted (with stadium type lights) when it's 15 degrees outside and two feet of snow covering the fields.
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Old 02-12-2011, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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Here's a personal favorite from your list-this guy is an ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT .

Syosset Central Schools Syosset Central Schools (Professional) Streitman, Jeffrey B Ndr $335,749 2009

Anyone who is living in yesteryear about the number of administrators bankrupting the system should see your list for a partial compilation of the highest paid administrators (some districts have six or seven alone that make more then the governor.
Just for kicks, I looked up the name "Streitman" on seethroughny.com and here is what I found:

Jericho Union Free Schools Jericho Union Free Schools Streitman, Brenda Ndr $50,630 2008
Jericho Union Free Schools Jericho Union Free Schools (Professional) Streitman, Brenda P Ndr $52,864 2009
Jericho Union Free Schools Jericho Union Free Schools (Professional) Streitman, Brenda P Ndr $54,416 2010
Syosset Central Schools Syosset Central Schools Streitman, Jeffrey Ndr $318,938 2008
Syosset Central Schools Syosset Central Schools (Professional) Streitman, Jeffrey B Ndr $335,749 2009
Syosset Central Schools Syosset Central Schools (Professional) Streitman, Jeffrey B Ndr $353,368 2010

You forgot to check for wifey-poo (or maybe daughter-poo?), who is on the Jericho school district taxpayer dole. They are both at the SAME ADDRESS in Plainview as per free public records search.

And Jeffrey's income went up almost $20K in one year ... from the $335,749 in 2009 that you cited to $353,368 in 2010.

How much you want to bet he got another nice raise for 2011?

Does this make him (and his female relative also on the property taxpayer dole) even more loveable to you?

However, I think this husband/wife "Dr. Duo" are the EPITOME of severely overcompensated ripoffs when it comes to LI school districts:

//www.city-data.com/forum/17788893-post71.html

Yet, there are people who will reproduce and mock my post in order to defend compensation like that ABSOLUTELY TO THE DEATH:

//www.city-data.com/forum/17824592-post85.html

Shame on them all!

I really think even more than a 2% property tax cap, the governor of NYS should put COMPENSATION LIMITS in place, because obviously all these little school district fiefdoms will not police themselves.

And the fabled nepotism in the "LI public education system/bottomless wallet for employees" is even more disgusting than I imagined.
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Old 02-12-2011, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Suffolk
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To be fair, they do start earlier then the regular employee. I don't think teachers have an easy job, it's just that plenty of people would be more than happy to teach on Long Island for $60,000/year. Common business sense would tell any employer that if they could choose between someone who wanted $140,000 and someone who wanted $60,000 for the same job with the same skill level, the employer would obviously take the $60,000 employee.

Plus, the Sachem official quoted in Newsday said that the younger (and cheaper) teachers are actually better trained because they know how to utilize all the technology resources that the older (higher paid) teachers are unable to utilize to the same level.
Maybe it's just our Supt, but I know he comes in by 8:30 (earlier than he's required to) and generally leaves around 5pm. He attends many of the night meetings in the district, which means he gets to eat dinner and come back to school for another 2-3 hours. He works on vacation days while the kids are off and must tell the board ahead of time if he is planning on a few days off.

Boards who are smart will put those types of provisions in a Supt contract, if they are smart. It at least controls some of their work time.
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Old 02-12-2011, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Suffolk
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Do they belong to the Garden City Teachers Union or NYS Union of Teachers?

Board members cannot be employees of the district they live in. If you teach in another district that is ok.
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