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Old 03-23-2011, 09:39 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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New York

Long Island Railroad

Projects to be completed by 2020

Helena Williams resignation or Firing
Signal Upgrades
Track Replacement
Switch Upgrades
Electrification of Central Branch
Electrification of the Port Jefferson Branch
Electrification of the Montauk Branch
Third Tracking of the Main line
East Side Access to Grand Central Terminal
Double Tracking of parts of the Ronkonkoma line
M9 Rail car
Equal Outbound / Inbound Services



Large Scale Railway Projects

Project : Restoration of the Full Hempstead line
Number of lines : 1
Stations : 4
Projected Ridership : 30,000


Project : Restoration of the Wading River Branch
Number of lines : 1
Stations : 3
Projected Ridership : 12,000


Project : Restoration of the Sunset Park line
Number of lines : 1
Stations : 11
Projected Ridership : 38,000


Project : LIRR Core line
Number of lines : 1
Stations : 17
Projected Ridership : 110,000


Project : LIRR East Side Access
Number of lines : 11
Stations : 1
Projected Ridership : 120,000


Current system...

LIRR
Location : Long Island and Manhattan , Queens and Brooklyn
Daily Ridership : 341,000 (Projected 2030 Daily Ridership : 570,000+)
System size : 700+ mi
Stations : 124
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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Electrification of the Montauk Branch?! The LIRR wants to replace the current trainsets with smaller DMUs.

Maybe electrify east to Patchouge. Dunno if it's worth it.
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Old 04-16-2011, 05:13 PM
 
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My comment in general on her plans: ...everytime she undertakes anything..all we get are delays and cancellations. NO positive results EVER. When the trains were shut down for weeks last year to "upgrade" the old switches, guess what...here we are the following year...trains are cancelled and delayed for "switch problems." I (and the majority of the ridership) want Quiet Cars (like the rest of the nation has on the rest of the rail lines. But I don't see that listed in her "to do" list. Amtrak has done this for years with great success, and all of our immediate neighbors have recently started it and expanded it because of its (obvious) overwhelming success. So, while our trains will be cancelled and delayed (as they will because of the LIRR's continued incompetancies), at least we could sit in some Quiet Cars and not have to be forced to listen to every rude loudmouth reporting his or her dinner plans, stomach issues, golf prowess, busines acumen, blah, blah, blah....in their megaphone voices.
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Old 04-17-2011, 07:33 AM
 
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My comment in general on her plans: ...everytime she undertakes anything..all we get are delays and cancellations. NO positive results EVER. When the trains were shut down for weeks last year to "upgrade" the old switches, guess what...here we are the following year...trains are cancelled and delayed for "switch problems." I (and the majority of the ridership) want Quiet Cars (like the rest of the nation has on the rest of the rail lines. But I don't see that listed in her "to do" list. Amtrak has done this for years with great success, and all of our immediate neighbors have recently started it and expanded it because of its (obvious) overwhelming success. So, while our trains will be cancelled and delayed (as they will because of the LIRR's continued incompetancies), at least we could sit in some Quiet Cars and not have to be forced to listen to every rude loudmouth reporting his or her dinner plans, stomach issues, golf prowess, busines acumen, blah, blah, blah....in their megaphone voices.
Off peak this is a problem.
This behavior is generally self policing on peak trains. Commuter justice generally kicks in and will correct the offender.
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Old 08-15-2011, 07:59 AM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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Long Island Railroad

Current , Proposed or Under Construction stations

Main Line
New York Penn Station (Grand Central Terminal starting in 2017)
Sunnyside JCT
Woodside
Forest Hills
Kew Gardens
Jamaica
Hollis
Francis Lewis Boulevard
Queens Village
Floral Park
New Hyde Park
Merillon Avenue
Mineola
Carle Place
Westbury
Hicksville
Bethpage
Farmingdale
Pinelawn
Wyandanch
Deer Park
Brentwood
Central Islip
Ronkonkoma
Medford
Yaphank
Riverhead
Mattituck
Southold
Greenport


Atlantic Branch
Atlantic Terminal
Nostrand Avenue
East New York
Woodhaven Junction
Jamaica
110 Ave
Foch Boulevard

Locust Manor
Laurelton
Rosedale
Valley Stream


Long Beach Branch
New York Penn Station
Sunnyside JCT
Jamaica
Lynbrook
Centre Avenue
East Rockaway
Oceanside
Island Park
Long Beach


Babylon Branch
New York Penn Station (Grand Central Terminal starting in 2017)
Sunnyside JCT
Woodside
Forest Hills
Kew Gardens
Jamaica
Saint Albans
Farmers Boulevard
Valley Stream
Lynbrook
Rockville Centre
Baldwin
Freeport
Merrick
Bellmore
Wantagh
Seaford
Massapequa
Massapequa Park
Amityville
Copiague
Lindenhurst
Babylon



Montauk Branch
Long Island City
Penny Bridge
Haberman
Fresh Pond
Glendale
Richmond Hill

Jamaica
Saint Albans
Farmers Boulevard
Valley Stream
Lynbrook
Rockville Centre
Baldwin
Freeport
Merrick
Bellmore
Wantagh
Seaford
Massapequa
Massapequa Park
Amityville
Copiague
Lindenhurst
Babylon
Bay Shore
Islip
Great River
Oakdale
Sayville
Patchogue
Bellport
Mastic – Shirley
Speonk
Westhampton
Hampton Bays
Southampton
Bridgehampton
East Hampton
Amagansett
Montauk


West Hempstead Branch
New York Penn Station
Sunnyside JCT
Woodside
Forest Hills
Kew Gardens
Jamaica
Saint Albans
Farmers Boulevard
Valley Stream
Westwood
Malverne
Lakeview
Hempstead Gardens
West Hempstead


Far Rockaway Branch
Atlantic Terminal
Nostrand Avenue
East New York
Woodhaven Junction
Jamaica
110 Ave
Foch Boulevard

Locust Manor
Laurelton
Rosedale
Valley Stream
Gibson
Hewlett
Woodmere
Cedarhurst
Lawrence
Inwood
Far Rockaway


Oyster Bay Branch
Penn Station
Jamaica
Mineola
East Williston
Albertson
Roslyn
Greenvale
Glen Head
Sea Cliff
Glen Street
Glen Cove
Locust Valley
Oyster Bay


Port Jefferson Branch
New York Penn Station (Grand Central Terminal starting in 2017)
Sunnyside JCT
Woodside
Forest Hills
Kew Gardens
Jamaica
Hollis
Francis Lewis Boulevard
Queens Village
Floral Park
New Hyde Park
Merillon Avenue
Mineola
Carle Place
Westbury
Hicksville
Syosset
Cold Spring Harbor
Huntington
Greenlawn
Northport
Kings Park
Smithtown
St. James
Stony Brook
Port Jefferson
Mount Sinai
Miller Place
Rocky Point
Shoreham
Wading River


Hempstead Branch
New York Penn Station
Sunnyside JCT
Woodside
Forest Hills
Kew Gardens
Jamaica
Hollis
Francis Lewis Boulevard
Queens Village
Floral Park
Stewart Manor
Nassau Boulevard
Garden City
Country Life Press
Hempstead


Port Washington Branch
New York Penn Station (Grand Central Terminal starting in 2017)
Sunnyside JCT
Woodside
Elmhurst
Corona

Mets–Willets Point
Flushing Main Street
Murray Hill
Broadway
Auburndale
Bayside
Douglaston
Little Neck
Great Neck
Manhasset
Plandome
Port Washington


JFK Airtrain - Trunk line
Jamaica
Liberty Ave
Linden Boulevard
Rockaway Boulevard

Federal Circle
Terminal 1
Terminal 2 & 3
Terminal 4
Terminal 5
Terminal 7
Terminal 8

JFK Airtrain - Howard Beach Branch
Howard Beach
Lefferts Boulevard
Federal Circle
Terminal 1
Terminal 2 & 3
Terminal 4
Terminal 5
Terminal 7
Terminal 8

Proposed or Planned Lines

JFK Airtrain - Howard Beach - Jamaica line
Howard Beach
Lefferts Boulevard
Rockaway Boulevard
Linden Boulevard
Liberty Ave

Jamaica


Central Branch
New York Penn Station
Sunnyside JCT
Woodside
Forest Hills
Kew Gardens
Jamaica
Hollis
Francis Lewis Boulevard
Queens Village
Floral Park
Stewart Manor
Nassau Boulevard
Garden City
Country Life Press
East Garden City
Nassau University Medical Center - Carman Ave
Levittown
Stewart Ave
Farmingdale - Main Street
North Lindenhurst

Babylon


Sag Harbor Branch
Long Island City
Penny Bridge
Haberman
Fresh Pond
Glendale
Richmond Hill

Jamaica
Saint Albans
Farmers Boulevard
Valley Stream
Lynbrook
Rockville Centre
Baldwin
Freeport
Merrick
Bellmore
Wantagh
Seaford
Massapequa
Massapequa Park
Amityville
Copiague
Lindenhurst
Babylon
Bay Shore
Islip
Great River
Oakdale
Sayville
Patchogue
Bellport
Mastic – Shirley
Speonk
Westhampton
Hampton Bays
Southampton
Bridgehampton
Sag Harbor


Sunset Park Branch
Sunset Park
Bay Ridge
Ocean Parkway
Flatbush Ave
New Lots Road
Woodhaven Junction

Jamaica


HarborLink
Grand Central Terminal
Sunnyside JCT

Woodside
Middle Village
Wilson Ave
East New York
New Lots Road
Flatbush Ave
Ocean Parkway
Bay Ridge
St. George Ferry Terminal
Bayonne
Elizabethport

Midtown Elizabeth
Roselle
Cranford
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Old 03-24-2019, 12:51 PM
 
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I think that adding branches to the LIRR shouldn't be a priority until we have frequent, rapid-transit like service on the sections we do have. East Side Access is only a few years away from completion, but I think we need to address the deteriorating East River Tunnels. Once ESA is open, immediately close one tube to completely overhaul it, and do this for all four tubes, one at a time. Because there are more jobs in East Midtown, the new capacity into GCT will end up reducing demand into Penn Station for a while, allowing the closure of the East River Tubes (one at a time). However, Midtown West's influence as a job center is growing, so we have only a limited amount of time before demand for travel into Penn Station returns to pre-ESA levels. Overhauling the East River Tubes sooner, rather than later, will minimize impact to service at rush hours. I know the LIRR wants to dramatically increase service on all branches once ESA opens, but holding off on that and allowing the Tubes to be overhauled will minimize unplanned disruptions to service in the long run (so long as regular maintenance continues after the overhaul -- something that might not be kept up given the track record of the MTA).

Once the Floral Park--Hicksville Third Track Project is completed, there will be extra room for more trains during rush hour. The next highest priority is double-tracking the Ronkonkoma branch to said station, and after that should be the electrification of the Port Jefferson Branch between Huntington and Port Jefferson, coupled with double-tracking the whole line if possible. After that, the MTA should look into converting the Far Rockaway, West Hempstead, and Oyster Bay branches to light rail, and connecting them up to create a continuous line with a local loop in Hempstead proper. This would open up capacity on the LIRR for truly rapid-transit service for the lines that remain. The light rail would be able to run more frequently than the LIRR branches it will replace, minimizing transfer times. It will also open up the Locust Manor/Laurelton route to Subway service pending capacity improvements that would allow the E train to run more trains and extend service to Laurelton (this is detailed in multiple updates of Andrew Lynch's futureNYCSubway posts on his website, vanshnookenraggen -- which is also his handle on that website). If any of the above sounds familiar, it's because the RPA were the ones to first propose converting the Far Rockaway, West Hempstead, and Oyster Bay branches to light rail.

Other than that, I think that all stations that would gain and retain electric service on the LIRR (so, not the branches replaced by light rail) should extend their platforms to accommodate 8-car trains, with the Port Washington upgrading to 12-car trains and the Long Beach and Hempstead upgrading to 10-car trains with the possibility of 12-car trains a little further down the line. Port Jefferson may or may not require 10-car trains during rush hour within the foreseeable future, and trains to/from Ronkonkoma may require 10-car trains as well. The Babylon and Montauk branches should attempt to double-track their entire lines (for more frequent service) before trying to upgrade to longer trains, given the density of the localities they serve (the Montauk branch should be electrified to Speonk and double-tracked that far as well). If possible, the Montauk branch should try to triple-track between Babylon and Great River to speed the diesel express trains to/from Montauk. If this is not possible, build frequent switches between Babylon and Patchogue to allow the diesel expresses to pass local electric trains and still allow AM rush hour eastbound, and PM rush hour westbound local trips between Babylon and Speonk.
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