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Old 12-07-2010, 12:48 AM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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I took the LIRR long term plans and my proposals and stuck them on one map....most of my proposals use preserved ROW making them cheap to build , same with the LIRR plans....

System size
Current system size : 700
added miles of New / Electrified Rail : 198 (with my proposals 262)


LIRR
Location : Long Island and Manhattan
Daily Ridership : 341,000 (Projected 2030 Daily Ridership : 570,000+)
System size : 700+ mi
Stations : 124
Future upgrades / Expansions : Wading River line Restoration , Central Branch , Montauk Branch , Port Jefferson Branch Electrification , East Side Access Project , Restoration of the full Hempstead Branch and line


LIRR Long Term plans - 2040ish

Electrification of the Central Branch and Montauk line - 117 mi
Restoration of the Wading River Branch - 70 mi
Restoration of the full Hempstead line - 9 mi
Restoration of the full Hempstead Branch 2 mi


My Proposals

Restoration of the Sag Harbor Branch - 4 mi
Restoration of the Western link - 13 mi
LIRR Sunset Park line - 14 mi
LIRR Core line (Elizabeth,NJ - Staten Island - Brooklyn - Queens - Midtown) - 33 mi

Route 25 Light Rail / Streetcar - 48 mi
Huntington Station - Babylon Light Rail - 13 mi
Kings Park - Bayshore Light Rail - 13 mi
Stony Brook - Patchogue Light Rail - 15 mi


LIRR Long Term Plans and Proposals - Google Maps

See here for the Long Term MNRR Plans....

MNRR Long Term Plans and proposals - Google Maps

Lower Hudson Valley

Current system size : 156 mi
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 185 mi
added Miles of Electrified Rail : 54


MNRR
Location : Northern NYC Suburbs and Connecticut
Daily Ridership : 287,000 (Projected 2030 Daily Ridership : 420,000+)
System size : 156 mi
Stations : 120
Future upgrades / Expansions : MNRR expansion to Penn Station of the New Haven and Hudson lines , Restoration of the Graham line , Restoration of the West Shore line , I-287 Rail Corridor , Danbury Branch upgrades

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Old 12-07-2010, 12:56 AM
 
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Ahahahahahahahaha, yeah, good luck with that. Might as well wish for forty virgins and a million dollars while you're at it.
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Old 12-07-2010, 08:58 AM
 
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Do you have a web source for the actual LIRR long term proposals?
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Old 12-07-2010, 09:54 AM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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Do you have a web source for the actual LIRR long term proposals?
With those are proposals mixed in with other Transit Fanners / LIRR Employees. As for the long term plans if you look around you can find them.
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Old 12-07-2010, 09:58 AM
 
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I've looked around and wasn't able to come up with anything. You can't post a link?
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Old 12-07-2010, 10:16 AM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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Long Island Rail Road - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now i have dig around the Railroad world and find the other links....some is just insider knowledge....
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Old 12-07-2010, 10:31 AM
 
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I guess I was mainly curious about these two items that looks like LIRR has as a part of their long term plan:

Restoration of the full Hempstead line - 9 mi
Restoration of the full Hempstead Branch 2 mi

The 2mi full Hempstead branch has been closed for 60 years or so.. They are cutting the services on the West Hempstead line. What makes you think they would try to restore this service?

I didn't see the proposal on the Wiki page.
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Old 12-07-2010, 10:59 AM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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I guess I was mainly curious about these two items that looks like LIRR has as a part of their long term plan:

Restoration of the full Hempstead line - 9 mi
Restoration of the full Hempstead Branch 2 mi

The 2mi full Hempstead branch has been closed for 60 years or so.. They are cutting the services on the West Hempstead line. What makes you think they would try to restore this service?

I didn't see the proposal on the Wiki page.
These 2 were told by a LIRR Employee , he said to close gaps in the system. Which makes alot of sense to me , the ROW is still intact so it wouldn't be that expensive. Ridership form the New Stations is bound to high given the surrounding densities along the line. I think they will be restored sometime in my life which is a long time period , i'm just 20 years old. While the LIRR is cutting services on some branches now , i beleave that they restore that service and then some later this decade , and that goes for every Bos-Wash Rail agency.
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Old 12-07-2010, 11:44 AM
 
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These 2 were told by a LIRR Employee , he said to close gaps in the system. Which makes alot of sense to me , the ROW is still intact so it wouldn't be that expensive. Ridership form the New Stations is bound to high given the surrounding densities along the line. I think they will be restored sometime in my life which is a long time period , i'm just 20 years old. While the LIRR is cutting services on some branches now , i beleave that they restore that service and then some later this decade , and that goes for every Bos-Wash Rail agency.
what percentage of ridership from these new stations will simply be existing riders pulled from current stations?
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Old 12-08-2010, 12:14 AM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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what percentage of ridership from these new stations will simply be existing riders pulled from current stations?
IDK , but if you look at the employment / education factilites that line the preserved ROW it will be medium to high.
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