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Old 05-13-2011, 09:00 AM
 
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Old 05-13-2011, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I don't see anything critical of the teachers, just a breakdown of the taxes.
 
Old 05-13-2011, 07:25 PM
 
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therein lies the rub...there's nothing overtly critical in the ad...it's just simply laying out the facts as they have them.
 
Old 05-13-2011, 07:26 PM
 
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Dman, what part of the above did you not understand?
Okay, because you said that, no one can voice an opinion to the contrary? That's not how it works.
 
Old 05-14-2011, 01:32 AM
 
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Okay, because you said that, no one can voice an opinion to the contrary? That's not how it works.
You addressed a snarky post to me in particular. My response was a way of reinforcing the point that your opinion on the subject does not matter to me. Capice? Thank you, have a nice day!
 
Old 05-15-2011, 09:37 AM
 
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Old 05-15-2011, 09:46 AM
 
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therein lies the rub...there's nothing overtly critical in the ad...it's just simply laying out the facts as they have them.

This says it all: "If you eliminate every county employee and service including CSEA, Police, Corrections, and N.C. College Adjunct Faculty, you would still pay $9,200 of a $10,000 TAX BILL!"
 
Old 05-15-2011, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Massapequa Park
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This says it all: "If you eliminate every county employee and service including CSEA, Police, Corrections, and N.C. College Adjunct Faculty, you would still pay $9,200 of a $10,000 TAX BILL!"
This is incorrect. It's true that property taxes would go down by about $1100, or 11%, if NCPD and and the police headquarters line were removed from your tax bill. BUT (and this is a critical BUT), county expenses would go down by a lot more than that!
Because as we know the county gets revenue from multiple sources, mainly SALES TAX REVENUE. So, if 50% of Nassau County's $2.6 Billion dollar budget is salaries & benefits, removing 60% of that (NCPD&POLICE HQ are 60% of that) would save taxpayers about $780 MILLION dollars ($1.3B * .6). In other words, that is close to the entire sum that the county takes in in county property taxes! On a $10k total bill, the county tax portion is about $2200-$2400. So that is what we would be saving, $2200+ per household. That's a lot more than the $800 disinformation that is being claimed here.




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You keep linking to this, but the figures in that thread are actually proving the opposite of what you are suggesting. Read this post here to see what I mean:
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Old 05-15-2011, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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therein lies the rub...there's nothing overtly critical in the ad...it's just simply laying out the facts as they have them.
I agree but their argument has little meaning,do we argue that the superintendent making $500K is not an issue because really only costs the taxpayer a small amount. There are after all a few more teachers in a district than there are police officers, that has nothing to do with the issue of compensation. That's like your cell phone company arguing that they are just a small percentage of your bill compared to LIPA.
 
Old 05-15-2011, 07:27 PM
 
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I agree but their argument has little meaning,do we argue that the superintendent making $500K is not an issue because really only costs the taxpayer a small amount. There are after all a few more teachers in a district than there are police officers, that has nothing to do with the issue of compensation. That's like your cell phone company arguing that they are just a small percentage of your bill compared to LIPA.
Cell phone and LIPA are their own bills, however. They don't share them, and you don't see people howling to Verizon about LIPA. So maybe that's not a good metaphor.

The point of the ad is to illustrate where property tax money goes. There is a loud and oblivious contingent that seems hellbent on blaming the groups in the ad for their property tax bills being high, and they are barking up the wrong tree.
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