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Maybe your highly skilled and educated in a lower paying field?
Where do I start...building trades workers(electricians, steam fitters, hvac etc) doctors, dentists, scientists, teachers, accountants, engineers, business owners, police, certain medical professions...
Independent, Independent, Independent, ... yes there are some research labs, public servant, independent, ... what engineers?, Independent, public servant, ... yes medical will be in demand it's unavoidable.
Some of these are great jobs but anything that is independently owned, is a portable business, and not necessarily an LI exclusive.
J-dawg Just so you know the building trades apprentice program probably takes as long to complete as your degree was. And you do it after working a full day of work. Not fun.
Just sayin.
And please dont let the folks who build LI and NYC hear that they are not-educated.
Back to the topic...
The reason why companies dont stay here is b/c its to expensive to operate here(taxes, health, shipping, etc) not b/c of uneducated workers.
and go where......I think its the same everywhere (at least in the tri state area). Kids are different than we were kids....just the way it is (for the go and bad). A kid in NJ or CT or near a major metro center will be the same........not sure about rural areas.
I want to move far..far...far away from the Tri-state area. Yes, things have changed everywhere, but not to the extent that they have in the Tri-state area. When you have to spend $500 for birthday parties and $10K a year for pre-school in order to be considered a good parent, things are totally out of wack! Not to mention that if your kid presents themselves in any way out of the ordinary they automatically get labeled with Autism or ADD to help support the out of control special education racket they have on this Island.
Everytime I go to the suburbs of Buffalo where my mother lives, I see kids actually playing hockey in street without parents micromanaging every move (oh the horror!). Sorry but life isn't like it is in Long Island everywhere, those of us who grew up in other places know the truth!
I should have never came here, a decision I will regret the rest of my life.
I want to move far..far...far away from the Tri-state area. Yes, things have changed everywhere, but not to the extent that they have in the Tri-state area. When you have to spend $500 for birthday parties and $10K a year for pre-school in order to be considered a good parent, things are totally out of wack! Not to mention that if your kid presents themselves in any way out of the ordinary they automatically get labeled with Autism or ADD to help support the out of control special education racket they have on this Island.
Everytime I go to the suburbs of Buffalo where my mother lives, I see kids actually playing hockey in street without parents micromanaging every move (oh the horror!). Sorry but life isn't like it is in Long Island everywhere, those of us who grew up in other places know the truth!
I should have never came here, a decision I will regret the rest of my life.
Buffalo is incredibly poor and has the largest population decline out of anywhere in NYS.
J-dawg Just so you know the building trades apprentice program probably takes as long to complete as your degree was. And you do it after working a full day of work. Not fun.
Just sayin.
And please dont let the folks who build LI and NYC hear that they are not-educated.
Back to the topic...
The reason why companies dont stay here is b/c its to expensive to operate here(taxes, health, shipping, etc) not b/c of uneducated workers.
uneducated isn't always synonamous with unintelligent.
But how is LI any more expensive to operate in than NYC is?
Buffalo is incredibly poor and has the largest population decline out of anywhere in NYS.
The city of Buffalo itself is a S--thole, the suburbs of Buffalo, Rochester and Syracuse are some of the best places to raise children in terms of quality of life. Landing well-paying employment is the problem, but once you do it's a good place to live (if you don't mind the snow!) With this winter on LI, I don't see much of a difference!
uneducated isn't always synonamous with unintelligent.
But how is LI any more expensive to operate in than NYC is?
Long Island is well educated, but it is boring and lacks vitality. I would rather live in Brooklyn than Nassau County. Most young people either want a cool urban neighborhood (like NYC) or they want to live in a place where they can have a large new build in a modern suburban environment (like cities in the South). They don't want to live in an overpriced shoebox ranch or cape cod in a place with a 1950's infrastructure like Nassau County, where they have no hope of moving up to something larger no matter how hard they work.
Long Island is well educated, but it is boring and lacks vitality. I would rather live in Brooklyn than Nassau County. Most young people either want a cool urban neighborhood (like NYC) or they want to live in a place where they can have a large new build in a modern suburban environment (like cities in the South). They don't want to live in an overpriced shoebox ranch or cape cod in a place with a 1950's infrastructure like Nassau County, where they have no hope of moving up to something larger no matter how hard they work.
I don't agree, but ok, you are entitled your opinion. What do you consider "young people"? I'm 29, so I definitely think I fall into the "young people" category. I never liked the urban lifestyle and i would def. not in a million years ever want to live down south.
There are places in Suffolk with new houses being built that look just like the ones down south. Nassau is mainly older homes, but Suffolk has a lot of new construction...big houses too. (Bigger doesn't always mean better though).
For me, personally, I cannot stand Brooklyn. I don't even find the nicest areas of Brooklyn even remotely appealing. It's not really a "young people" thing, it's an individual preference really. I love the beach, I love LI's proximity to the beach. I love that within an hour I can have an urban lifestyle right @ my fingertips without actually having to live there. I like that I don't live on top my neighbour. I like that LI has backyards.
I think LI is a great place for all ages...if you can afford it. The key is affording it. If you can't afford it, you will be miserable, but if you can afford it, I think it's an amazing place to live!
Buffalo is incredibly poor and has the largest population decline out of anywhere in NYS.
Kind of an outdated statistic that goes back to the building of the dam that created the entire "rust belt." Currently, every trend for Buffalo and Rochester are improving from employment to home values. I've been there recently. The blight is slowly disappearing. On Long Island, the blight seems to be coming.
Interesting for the original post that Buffalo's colleges are doing very well. SUNY Buffalo is expanding (taking over parts of the city similar to NYU in the village), Canisius is one of the more expensive Jesuit schools and is turning 1000's of kids away.
Grant516 -- SBU is global -- They are working on a campus in Korea as well as having a presence in the Turkana Basin and Madagascar. Spend some time on campus and observe the professorial and research staff -- they are from all around the world -- Asia, South America, Europe, etc. The graduate and undergraduate population also consists of a global cross-section of students.
According to the London Times, SBU comes in at #78 -- ahead of George Washington, Wake Forest, Dartmouth (an Ivy League school -- GASP!), RPI, Rutgers, Perdue, Penn State, Michigan State, Iowa State, Georgetown, U of Illinois, etc.
What does that say about a state university when it bests an Ivy league school on a list generated by a foreign entity?
With regard to campus towns, SBU has reached out to the local community -- civics and Chamber of Commerce -- in an effort to create a college town presence not unlike that found in Princeton. It will take some time, but steps are being made in the right direction. Did we just move toward Princenton, N.J.?__ Chamber President: Watch Out, Princeton
As for desirability: the presence of SBU has drawn many well educated professionals to the Three Village area who work for SBU, UHSB, ST Chas, Mather, St Catherine, BNL, CSHL, to name a few local employers.
University researchers are helping the farming industry to grow and compete on the world level.
Nevermind the fact that the research which led to the development of the MRI took place at SBU -- the first living organism ever subject to an MRI was at Stony Brook in 1974.
The school has created two pharmaceutical drugs, found significant fossils, found the cause of Lyme disease....we can go on and on.
Long Island's population trumps that of some small states. Entire states do not rest their economic well being on the presence of X number of major universities; although NYS is making millions off of royalties generated by Stony Brook researchers alone -- heaven knows how much more comes in from other SUNY entities.
The suburbs were never designed to be a Mecca for nightlife and I understand why you find it boring. The LIRR can whisk you away into the NYC for a night of dining, dancing, theatre, culture -- whatever tickles your fancy (and you can find someone there to do that, too, for a price LOL)
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