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Originally Posted by kayfouroh
So if I can't find a rifle range to shoot my gun at, I should receive sympathy for wanting to shoot out in the streets? Awesome. Good to know.
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If we remove, calverton, ridge, yaphank, the 3 private clubs in riverhead, the melville club, the NC range and the few i can't remember...
i would imagine you just might find a farmer to let you try out your shooting on his empty property... maybe even the desolate pine barrens.... There is no cops in there
Not very different then waiting till 2 am when no one is on the street to race your car, since you have no where to do it legally, and safely, and not by choice, but you are forced to have no where to practice this.
So while you shoot on a farmers property you accidentally shoot someone... oooops, wasn't intentional, wasn't supposed to happen, you tried to do it somewhere you felt was safe, took some precautions...
Lets make no mistake, that had the officer radioed ahead and followed with no lights, there probably wouldn't have been a crash...
So every action causes a reaction...
If i see people racing on the street, where they know and i know there taking a huge risk, i sure as hell am not going to announce (turn the disco lights on) here i come...
Also giving chase to vehicles over 100 mph is also clearly a dangerous move as we and the officer has now learned, and why police usually do not proceed with such actions because of exactly what the out come was...
There are lessons to be learned from this..
radio ahead, cars ahead lights on, let them come up behind them, and then trailing car can move in...
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Originally Posted by Jdawg8181
I saw this story on the news and the father of one of the kids spoke and was pretty much "my son is a good kid, he was just doing what any 21 year old would do."
Ummmm...no, sorry sir, but i wasn't racing my car 145mph on the LIE when I was 21 (granted i'm a female, but still)...and I have a feeling most 21 year olds aren't.
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I was, and i know thousands that were at that age, difference was...
We had 6 facilities at the time i was able to use them, that 6 was down from the 48 facilities Long Island had.
The major draw for communities here was the motorsports that attracted it since 1900.
Thanks to the Vanderbilt family for building the 1st motorsports facility, that YOU know as "motor parkway" which was 44 miles of raceway, then later donated to long island.
They then built roosevelt raceway, you know it as roosevelt mall
So it is very hard for the motorsports community that lives on the island where motorsports was born and raised in the United States, and had 45 facilities, groomed some of the most famous race car drivers and brought on some major innovations to cars, thru racing.....along with making a huge industry and business section for the island to be pushed aside and nothing done to make a safe area.
We aren't asking the county for money, WE have money, We just need the bs to stop with trying to build it, and people to stop lying about something they have no clue about and let it happen...
From that will come police not engaged with fatality accidents, police not engaged with trying to stop illegal street racing while you are being mugged or raped, police not having to see dead kids from a tragic accident that could have been so prevented....
There are many things that can and will be done to combat street racing, and the Long Island Motorsports Association has that plan and the wherewithal to make it happen.
However the Long Island Motorsports Association can not make it happen without a facility to bring the kids and professionals to, making the reality of stopping it, non existent
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Originally Posted by kayfouroh
These morons could be going to Englishtown, NJ and racing there.
And cars DO kill people, like guns.
Morons are going to be morons, no matter what.
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Cars do not kill people, neither do guns, people using them irresponsibly resulting in an accident or purposely kill people...
I'll put 5 cars running in my driveway and 20 guns loaded on them, next to them and we can stand there together waiting to see which car and which gun tries to harm either one of us...
I bet you, nothing happens... EVEN if i provoke them...
Now
They're not morons, it takes brains and a strong mechanical understanding and ability to make the cars that fast, not anyone can make them fast, so they're not morons. (4 cyl cars)
They are kids with a ability and have no where to practice it.
how many kids and adults do you need to hear from that will tell you they wouldn't be on the street.
How many businesses do you want to hear from that need a facility to test at, there next innovation perfected, next safety break thru
Have you any idea how many good businesses with good jobs we lost to no longer having a facility for them to test at.... (it's nearing the hundreds now)
Do you know how expensive it is to go back and fourth to NJ ? do you want to know....
For me to take a day to test my business products costs me over $500...
1 day
1 trip to and from NJ, and thats not no special day with all the fixings...
It's a miserable day, up at 4am to beat the imbeciles that can not drive, double check the car on/in the trailer, make sure i have my new pieces to test, fill up at the station, get hammered at the tolls(3), get to the track (2 hours) wait till it opens (another 2 hours), (at e-town maybe get a very limited test session and not learn enough of what needs to be refined or scrapped) a cheap lunch ($15) leave, top off tank at $0.60 cheaper or more, bent over at the tolls again....
Sob i spent $420 for NJ's economy
or we go to NJMP (road course) for some endurance testing, that day is over $600......
That's $600 spent in NJ...
Coming home, can take 4 or 5 hours...
How many kids you know dropping $500 or $600...
I only do it because at times i need to make changes and try new things...
Im not wasting the money to spend in NJ, i would rather it be here, JUST like it was, when Long Island tempted me and had everything the motorsports enthusiast, motorsports business owner could want... Drawing me and business here....
Now myself like another 100,000 are trapped, on a dead end, without a facility now for 7 years...
It's only going to get worse....
There is no need for it, 30 mil for 300 acres at epcal....offered 2 months ago, & last month, & right now...30 for 300 acres
Nope "we need to do redevelop our zoning"
Another stall tactic to wait us out....
Meanwhile, more jobs are lost, our economy suffers, and TONIGHT....
Maybe....
God forbid...
Someone can die....
Because......
a empty headed politician has no clue....
The nfl makes 5.9 billion a year....
Thats 256 games
F-1 makes 4 billion a year
Thats 16 races
Nascar makes 4.5 billion a year
Thats 36 races
NHRA, SCCA, ALMS, INDY all do just shy of what the nfl does in a 10% of the time...
So why not have a facility to bring in a few hundred million, a facility to keep kids off the street and able to make the next great automotive break thru, a facility to teach kids in drivers ed how to safely drive and what not to do....
Have a facility to attract jobs and business
No! ! ! instead of all that positive, waste another 12 years and have nothing, everything else isn't working... or people without a clue and understanding speaking out there ass as if they know of what follows motorsports and what jobs they create and manufacturing...
Meanwhile we shun our heritage....
The 1st motorsports race in the US
The 1st stock car race in the US
The 1st purpose built dragway in the US
The most motorsports enthusiasts and racers per capita.....
Yet we continue to drop the ball......
i wouldn't wish anyone kids to die in a tragic accident....
It amazes me the selfishness of the people on this island and there lack of insight to fix a problem.
Lets do like NYC did, and make another law, oh and that killed more people...
Made the issue worse...
They never learn, people, for the most part it seems that the majority of the population is dumb, almost retarded.
Worse is we have an area, and the means to make it happen....
W A S T E D ! ! !
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