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Among more populated counties in the state, southwest Florida is ground zero for vacancies. At the top of the list is Collier County, home to upscale Naples, where one of every three homes is vacant. Right behind are Lee (Fort Myers), Charlotte (Port Charlotte) and Sarasota counties.
Plenty of overpriced and overreaching McMansions in the above areas, right? Approximately 1/3 of all of them are rotting. ONbelievable! How do you call someplace "upscale" when 1/3 of it is deserted? LOL. That's sick.
Trailer parks would have been a better bet. At least people could afford to live in them at the local wages. Hmmm. I haven't done a TP pictorial in awhile ... maybe the southern developers need to be shown what they can make a profit with down in them thar southern pines.
Aside from the traffic, how is this possibly a bad thing? I think it looks great, hope it actually happens.
LOL. Who knows! What they designed looks great, but is that the place for it? They don't have Kate Murray to charge to the rescue and kill the dragon of development like she did with the Lighthouse Project! Can the politicians out there in Suffolk handle the intricacies of NIMBY attacks? Maybe Kate can make some money as a consultant.
Apparently, that's why the Huntington Town Board recently voted to approve hiring a consultant to review the environmental impact statement for the $4-billion Heartland development, huh?
Islip Town irresponsibly allows this mega-project near the town line with Huntington, Smithtown and nearby Babylon. Islip gets all the tax money but all Huntington gets is increased congestion & pollution and alot of increased traffic on Commack Road.
Aside from the traffic, how is this possibly a bad thing? I think it looks great, hope it actually happens.
While we need quality rental places for our young adults:
1) Prices will be too high to support the lofty "utopia".
2) Forgets that LI is a commuter district and most of the people living there are going to have jobs elsewhere.
3) Traffic is already heavy, another 10,000+ cars on the road isn't appealing.
4) Right in the middle of one of the worst areas on the Island, crime is going to be a hard sell.
5) No real plan for mass transit (see #3).
I think these "Smart Growth" type plans work well in an area that is still developing. You build dense housing for the people on some land, so that other land like farms and forests can be saved.
This is not the case on Long Island. Most of the western and central parts of the Island are already heavily developed. No open land is being saved from development by allowing smart growth because there is almost no open land left to save.
Instead, Smart Growth on Long Island is simply a excuse to let developers greatly increase density so they can make far more money than simply building traditional suburban housing. If we really believed in Smart Growth or balanced growth etc., then we would be saving all the land at Pilgrim State and adding it to the Edgewood Perserve because so much of central Long Island has been overdeveloped.
I think these "Smart Growth" type plans work well in an area that is still developing. You build dense housing for the people on some land, so that other land like farms and forests can be saved.
This is not the case on Long Island. Most of the western and central parts of the Island are already heavily developed. No open land is being saved from development by allowing smart growth because there is almost no open land left to save.
Instead, Smart Growth on Long Island is simply a excuse to let developers greatly increase density so they can make far more money than simply building traditional suburban housing. If we really believed in Smart Growth or balanced growth etc., then we would be saving all the land at Pilgrim State and adding it to the Edgewood Perserve because so much of central Long Island has been overdeveloped.
I think a bit more housing stock in Long Island would help keep housing more affordable. If there is no increase in housing, people will have to move out. And something different from traditional suburban housing could be nice. Most of Long Island is traditional suburban housing and it's not going away, why not try something different? This would probably create less traffic than a lower density development, because people could drive to it, park and walk around instead have to drive between stores.
I grew up in Long Island and dunno if it would worth it to be back. And at this point in my life, I don't think I would want a traditional suburban house. Anyway, it's not going to change the entire island. Sounds like it's worth a try.
LOL. Who knows! What they designed looks great, but is that the place for it? They don't have Kate Murray to charge to the rescue and kill the dragon of development like she did with the Lighthouse Project! Can the politicians out there in Suffolk handle the intricacies of NIMBY attacks? Maybe Kate can make some money as a consultant.
Better yet, since her father just "retired" again maybe he can head out to Islip and straighten things out while Kate holds down the fort back home. God knows we need someone here in the Town of Hempstead to defend us from the onslaught of neighborhood ruining White Castles and keep more $100k salaries on the books at the animal shelter than there are animals.
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Originally Posted by SilverBulletZ06
While we need quality rental places for our young adults:
1) Prices will be too high to support the lofty "utopia".
2) Forgets that LI is a commuter district and most of the people living there are going to have jobs elsewhere.
3) Traffic is already heavy, another 10,000+ cars on the road isn't appealing.
4) Right in the middle of one of the worst areas on the Island, crime is going to be a hard sell.
5) No real plan for mass transit (see #3).
I didn't catch what the prices are anticipated to be, but I think it's pretty safe to assume they'll be somewhat less than typical home ownership on LI and somewhat more than illegal basement apartment rental, right? I don't really know what you mean ("...too high to support the lofty 'utopia'") either.
I'd hardly say the old grounds of Pilgrim State Hospital are "in the middle of" one of the worst areas on LI. It's in the middle of nowhere, I think it's well over a mile to any populated area of Brentwood and what is there, all of ONE road that even crosses the parkway? I can't imagine how or why whatever problems there are in Brentwood would effect this development in any way.
As far as mass transit, the Deer Park LIRR station is right there... Heartland also owns all the property immediately bordering it so if they ran shuttle buses (or even if people were driving to the station) it would be entirely on private land and would take 2 minutes. I'm sure there would be a Suffolk Transit route looped through here too, not that it'll very likely make any huge impact.
The traffic will be bad, no getting around that... but the traffic is going to be bad with or without this. I really hope it doesn't get shot down because a bunch of people are upset that their crappy commute will now take 4 minutes longer on any given day. Sagtikos Parkway is only 2 lanes in each direction, it could (and should) be widened - access roads directly to the LIE can easily be created and again all on private land.
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