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Nancy Grace was all over this case last night and did give out some good information. All the bodies found were totally nude, absolutely no personal clothing or property found anywhere near them, all bodies skeletonized. The ongoing theory is that they might have been tossed from a car into the brush, or car stopped and tossed the bodies. The drop site isn't too far from the highway. Somebody that knows the area very well. Killer is probably keeping momentos of each victim. They are all petite (around 5'), longish hair, light brown to blonde. The photos they showed all look to be around the same age....I didn't get whether these were photos of women that had been identified already, or women that were missing from the area? LE is going back to Craigslist to see what they can find. One expert said hard to determine when date of deaths occurred because of the weather (winter), they could be fairly recent or been there several years. Mother of one of the victims was interviewed briefly, but she was very upset, reliving the nightmare all over again.
Questions did come up as to exactly how the officer that found the first body exactly came across it, since it wasn't visible from the road. Another of the bodies was found by an off duty police officer...same question came up. Surprising that since it is a very populated area in the summer that nobody saw these them.
Questions did come up as to exactly how the officer that found the first body exactly came across it, since it wasn't visible from the road.
didn't a dog find the first body?
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Another of the bodies was found by an off duty police officer...same question came up. Surprising that since it is a very populated area in the summer that nobody saw these them.
the actual public beaches are well populated but the stretches between them are anything but and Ocean Parkway is desolate in the middle of the night even during the summer. It's pretty much an ideal place to dump something you don't want to be found.
Nancy Grace was all over this case last night and did give out some good information. All the bodies found were totally nude, absolutely no personal clothing or property found anywhere near them, all bodies skeletonized. The ongoing theory is that they might have been tossed from a car into the brush, or car stopped and tossed the bodies. The drop site isn't too far from the highway. Somebody that knows the area very well. Killer is probably keeping momentos of each victim. They are all petite (around 5'), longish hair, light brown to blonde. The photos they showed all look to be around the same age....I didn't get whether these were photos of women that had been identified already, or women that were missing from the area? LE is going back to Craigslist to see what they can find. One expert said hard to determine when date of deaths occurred because of the weather (winter), they could be fairly recent or been there several years. Mother of one of the victims was interviewed briefly, but she was very upset, reliving the nightmare all over again.
Questions did come up as to exactly how the officer that found the first body exactly came across it, since it wasn't visible from the road. Another of the bodies was found by an off duty police officer...same question came up. Surprising that since it is a very populated area in the summer that nobody saw these them.
You're not very familiar with the area, are you?
Oak Beach is on a barrier island, not on Long Island proper. Ocean Parkway splits the barrier island so that the Ocean is on one side and the bay separating it from Long Island is on the other. Ocean Parkway is dark and desolate at night. We drove home from Point Lookout at 2 AM last June and there wasn't another soul on the road in either direction. I wouldn't want to be out there alone.
I believe the bodies were dumped on the bay side -- people would be less apt to wander over there; besides the seagrass and tangled growth would make traversing the area next to impossible. Decompostion was aided by a very hot summer, marine air and critters -- gulls, crabs, various carnivorous animals. Human bodies smell HORRIBLE when decaying -- if people were close by they would have smelled it and someone would have called it in.
As for the discovery of the first body -- it was by a dog during the first hunt for Ms Gilbert's body.
While searching for a missing New Jersey woman, police uncovered four bodies hidden alongside a remote parkway at a beach on Long Island. The grisly find started Saturday when dogs unearthed a skeleton, and then three more bodies stunned investigators on Monday.
I'm forever watching those television mysteries where they solve the case by real detective sleuthing, a note in some patrolman's logbook that places
a seemingly abandoned car there along the road at 4 in the morning. A toll booth attendent who remembers a regular traveler, somewhere along the way. How is
it that I'm leery about visiting the porn boards on my personal computer because the great God, google, has documented my every web visit, yet the seemingly
common thread between all of these ladies of the night and their killer, appears to be craigslist? As we know, the "craiglist killer", left an internet trail that sealed
his fate, yes there were additional points of information that helped the authorities in their efforts to identify him but why can't google do the tracking necessary,
to establish a link between these poor victims and their executioner? More than finding a common thread between these prostitutes, they were not picked up on
some corner in the shady part of town, these women were all users of the internet, the greatest electronic, forensic tool beyond DNA. I'm afraid to even just
troll someone here on the internet and it's a fear borne from the understanding that every byte of data ever sent along these internet paths, is documented,
permanently sealed in time, captive forever until blue-screen, do us part. Maybe they've overstated the capability of electronic forensics. They must have enough
cell-phone records to begin a serious study of cellular activity, there aren't too many videos to review unless some enterprising detective sets out to make an arrest,
based upon evidence that leads him in the right direction. So much more than awaiting a fresh batch of strawberries in farmville, I await the coming news that there's
been break in this case and a person of interest has been located. Next to awaiting the arrival of my Social Security check, the solving of this puzzle, tops my list.
I'm forever watching those television mysteries where they solve the case by real detective sleuthing, a note in some patrolman's logbook that places
a seemingly abandoned car there along the road at 4 in the morning. A toll booth attendent who remembers a regular traveler, somewhere along the way. How is
it that I'm leery about visiting the porn boards on my personal computer because the great God, google, has documented my every web visit, yet the seemingly
common thread between all of these ladies of the night and their killer, appears to be craigslist? As we know, the "craiglist killer", left an internet trail that sealed
his fate, yes there were additional points of information that helped the authorities in their efforts to identify him but why can't google do the tracking necessary,
to establish a link between these poor victims and their executioner? More than finding a common thread between these prostitutes, they were not picked up on
some corner in the shady part of town, these women were all users of the internet, the greatest electronic, forensic tool beyond DNA. I'm afraid to even just
troll someone here on the internet and it's a fear borne from the understanding that every byte of data ever sent along these internet paths, is documented,
permanently sealed in time, captive forever until blue-screen, do us part. Maybe they've overstated the capability of electronic forensics. They must have enough
cell-phone records to begin a serious study of cellular activity, there aren't too many videos to review unless some enterprising detective sets out to make an arrest,
based upon evidence that leads him in the right direction. So much more than awaiting a fresh batch of strawberries in farmville, I await the coming news that there's
been break in this case and a person of interest has been located. Next to awaiting the arrival of my Social Security check, the solving of this puzzle, tops my list.
If it were that easy I think they would have cracked this case back in December. Im sure this was among the first things they looked into.
Oh and 90% of what you see on the various CSIs, Abby's lab on NCIS, etc is either made up or significantly time compressed (it takes weeks, if not months to get results on some of that stuff in real life). The real world isent like NCIS where Gibbs and Team solve the case in 45 minutes. In the real world McGee can't hack into every database and get Gibbs his answers in 30 seconds.
Ok, let me take a "Monday morning quarterbacking" crack at the case.
I say the killer is a clammer from Lindenhurst. Burlap bags? bodies dumped bay side? I'm thinking a clammer who lives on L.I. directly across from where the bodies were dumped.
Ok, let me take a "Monday morning quarterbacking" crack at the case.
I say the killer is a clammer from Lindenhurst. Burlap bags? bodies dumped bay side? I'm thinking a clammer who lives on L.I. directly across from where the bodies were dumped.
Anyone wanna take me up on a bet it's a clammer?
Agreed a clammer (likely) or a fisherman (less likely), also that he may be using a boat as well. The killer is definitely very familiar with the area.
Ok, let me take a "Monday morning quarterbacking" crack at the case.
I say the killer is a clammer from Lindenhurst. Burlap bags? bodies dumped bay side? I'm thinking a clammer who lives on L.I. directly across from where the bodies were dumped.
Anyone wanna take me up on a bet it's a clammer?
With Captree right down the road...party boats...any sort of party boat bait come in burlap bags? I'm not suggesting they've been dumped from a party boat, but rather an employee of the boat is doing something afterhours.
If you're a serial killer with access to a boat, wouldn't you dump the bodies somewhere only accessible by boat? Sort of defeats the purpose if you take a boat to dump a body next to a parkway.
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