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Old 04-07-2011, 02:20 PM
 
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Where are they running to or from if it isn't Brooklyn or Penn Station?
a train that leaves Penn at 2:30 am heading somewhere far out east is still running during the gap in departures from Penn. that's my only point.
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Old 04-07-2011, 02:21 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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What are you talking about?

The LIRR does not run 24/7/365.

They take a nice long siesta in the middle of the night ... usually between 1 or 2 and 5 or 6 am. Don't believe me? Sleep on the floor in Penn Station when you've missed the last "drunk train" and you'll see!
Not all lines run 24/7 and not at Daytime frequencies only every hr....
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Old 04-07-2011, 06:06 PM
 
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The infamous drunk trains: I remember making sure NOT to miss the 1:30 (approximate it was ages ago) otherwise a person would get stuck waiting for the 3AM drunk train!

and let's not even mention the Hockey Trains, when the Rangers let out. Talk about low lifes.
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Old 04-07-2011, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Glen Head, NY
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no good reason to serve alcohol to people who will then get in their cars and drive home. if things are so bad that you have to drink on the train, leave your wife, job, town or all of the above.

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Arcane union rules.

The reason the trains are so "wild at night" is because the railroad allows for the consumption of alcohol and certain meatheads can't control themselves. I say ban the alcohol which would be bad thing, but if it means cutting down the price of a one way ticket costing $17 so be it. Automate and downsize. We can't afford the railroad and the surge in its pensions, something has to be done.
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Old 04-07-2011, 07:52 PM
 
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The infamous drunk trains: I remember making sure NOT to miss the 1:30 (approximate it was ages ago) otherwise a person would get stuck waiting for the 3AM drunk train!
The very sad thing about the drunk people riding the 3 am train is that they are not even LIRR regular riders. It is to the point where I won't dare hang out on a Friday or Saturday in the city (I work there and ride the LIRR daily) because taking the 3:00 a.m. train is dreadful. Most of the tears in the seats, grafiti and the obstruction of the advertising comes from this bunch. It is because of this reason why drinking should be banned on the trains. Unfortunately, the hard-working guy leaving the office to catch the 6:00 p.m.ish train will suffer and not be able to enjoy his beer because of these goons.
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Old 04-07-2011, 08:22 PM
 
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It kills me to write a quarterly MTA tax check for my business when none of us utilize it. I loathe being slammed with an MTA surcharge when I register my corporate, personal and recreational vehicles. I despise being gouged to cross a bridge or use a tunnel -- each of which look like maintenance was minimal for so long.

Two of my friends have now relocated to UT. It looks better and better.
I remember years ago my AT&T phone bill had an MTA surcharge. I thought that was pretty creative.
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Old 04-07-2011, 08:44 PM
 
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Not a surprise, but interesting article:

Study: LIRR, MetroNorth 'Inefficient' (http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/study-lirr-metronorth-inefficient-20110407-KC - broken link)

It costs $17 to transport only one passenger from Syosset to Penn Station on every run. The unions are killing the railroad. Why do we have ticket punchers from the 19th century staffing every car? They all are heavily unionized, their pensions are outrageous and there was that whole scandal where they were double dipping into the Federal Railroad Administration's disability fund at retirement. Shameful!
They needed a survey to tell us this???
Duh???
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Old 04-07-2011, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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The were a lot of fun...sometimes. Other times you could find trouble very easy.
Yes and no. When it was a group of us -- for certain. When it was just a few of the girls...heck no!
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Old 04-07-2011, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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Ah ha , iknew it. Track , System , and train upgrades would save the LIRR more in the long run then putting in turnstiles....which would cost $$ to maintain , and they would be at every station. You would have to retrofit every station , does the typical LIRR station below look like it can easily and cheaply be modified for Turnstiles? I kno that LIRR , MNRR and NJT are trying to install them at Turnstiles....at Urban Stations.



The photos are interesting, but I believe the location at the bottom has the benefit of a rolling topography, which allows for the elevated station. Imagine what would have to be built at LIRR stations to make it difficult for fare jumpers in a turnstile system?
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Old 04-08-2011, 05:36 PM
 
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Default Utah? Are you kidding?

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It kills me to write a quarterly MTA tax check for my business when none of us utilize it. I loathe being slammed with an MTA surcharge when I register my corporate, personal and recreational vehicles. I despise being gouged to cross a bridge or use a tunnel -- each of which look like maintenance was minimal for so long.

Two of my friends have now relocated to UT. It looks better and better.
Your friends left for Utah and like it more? Utah is not a good place to live unless you are a Mormon. That's not picking on Mormons because I have good Mormon friends who live there and I attended General Conference last year. That said, there are no opportunities in that state except service and extraction industries. It too is a one party state, but quite the opposite. I'll concede North Carolina, but it's quite another thing to pick one of the nation's worst states and compare to NY.
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