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Old 06-27-2011, 01:48 PM
 
Location: The Port City is rising.
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Interesting.

We *demand* that Mexican immigrants "assimilate" by learning and speaking English (this is America! we exclaim by thumping our chest). Yet, no one demands that Orthodox Jews NOT call going to the synagogue a "schul" and refuse to use the Anglicized Hassidic instead of chassidish. Why a "heimishe company" and not a "Yiddish" one?

Perhaps it is more "frum" (oh, I mean pious or devout). But why is Yiddish ok, and Spanish is not?

20yrsinBranson
the examples you give are just isolated words - it really takes cojones to equate that to using spanish (or Yiddish) as a daily language. But thats the zeitgheist today. Its takes a certain Je ne sais quois to do that.


SOME hasidim DO use Yiddish as their daily language. I suspect thats less of an issue than Spanish cause A. There are relatively few of them, and they almost live in greater NY and B. They arent pushing for bilingualism, generally.
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Old 06-27-2011, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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Interesting.

We *demand* that Mexican immigrants "assimilate" by learning and speaking English (this is America! we exclaim by thumping our chest). Yet, no one demands that Orthodox Jews NOT call going to the synagogue a "schul" and refuse to use the Anglicized Hassidic instead of chassidish. Why a "heimishe company" and not a "Yiddish" one?

Perhaps it is more "frum" (oh, I mean pious or devout). But why is Yiddish ok, and Spanish is not?

20yrsinBranson
I take it you've never heard of Spanglish.
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Old 06-27-2011, 02:31 PM
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Location: Where my bills arrive
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Reportedly, according to Jackie Mason:

"There may be those among you who support including Spanish in our national language. I for one am 110% against this! We must preserve the exclusivity and, above all, the purity of the English language.

"To all the shlemiels, shlemazels, nebbishes, nudniks, klutzes, putzes, shlubs, shmoes, shmucks, nogoodniks, and momzers that are out there pushing Spanish, I just want to say that I, for one, believe that English and only English deserves linguistic prominence in our American culture.

"To tell the truth, it makes me so farklempt, I'm fit to plotz. This whole Spanish schmeer gets me broyges, specially when I hear these erstwhile mavens and luftmenschen kvetching about needing to learn Spanish. What chutzpah! These shmegeges can tout their shlock about the cultural and linguistic diversity of our country, but I, for one, am not buying their shtick. It's all so much dreck, as far as I'm concerned. I exhort you all to be menshen about this and stand up to their fardrayte arguments and meshugganah, farshtunkene assertions. It wouldn't be kosher to do anything else.

"Remember, when all is said and done, we have English and they've got bubkes! The whole myseh is a pain in my tuchas!"
ROTFLMFAO!....
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Old 06-27-2011, 02:33 PM
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Interesting.

But why is Yiddish ok, and Spanish is not?

20yrsinBranson
Because those that converse in Yiddish can normally speak/understand English.

Is there a large borscht belt in Branson?

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Old 06-27-2011, 02:59 PM
 
Location: The Port City is rising.
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Because those that converse in Yiddish can normally speak/understand English.
Unfortunately there a few folks in Kiryas Joel who really can't speak English. But you aren't likely to run into them.
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Old 06-27-2011, 03:10 PM
 
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Unfortunately there a few folks in Kiryas Joel who really can't speak English. But you aren't likely to run into them.
and neither are you likely to run a successful Italian Salumeria there either.
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Old 06-27-2011, 03:17 PM
 
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... there a few folks in Kiryas Joel who really can't speak English.
Similarly, there are a few folks in Bensonhurst who really can't speak English, either.
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Old 06-27-2011, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Wellsville, Glurt County
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So Orthodox Jews have reflectors now?

That's great... I can't wait until they have pegs and streamers! Maybe they can put a Hank Greenberg rookie card in their yarmulkes to make a cool noise as they zoom down the street.
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Old 06-27-2011, 04:05 PM
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Unfortunately there a few folks in Kiryas Joel who really can't speak English. But you aren't likely to run into them.
And New Square & Monsey aren't any better...
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Old 06-27-2011, 04:17 PM
 
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I just don't understand why people can't be respectful of others and walk on the side of the road.

Whatever happened to decency and common courtesy?
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