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Old 03-29-2013, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Kings Park, NY
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I'd say it's more segregated than racist, to keep it simple.
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Old 03-29-2013, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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I'd say it's more segregated than racist, to keep it simple.
How do you separate the two?

Why is there segregation in the first place?
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Old 03-29-2013, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Kings Park, NY
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How do you separate the two?

Why is there segregation in the first place?
True, but I'm talking about Long Island as a whole. We have so many towns/cdps/hamlets/villages/whatever (RIP walter) that are so close to eachother, yet one zip code over has an entirely different demographic,

eg Hempstead/Garden City or...Dix Hills/Wyandanch.
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Old 03-29-2013, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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True, but I'm talking about Long Island as a whole. We have so many towns/cdps/hamlets/villages/whatever (RIP walter) that are so close to eachother, yet one zip code over has an entirely different demographic,

eg Hempstead/Garden City or...Dix Hills/Wyandanch.
If there wasn't racism, there wouldn't be any reason for segregation.
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Old 03-29-2013, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Kings Park, NY
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If there wasn't racism, there wouldn't be any reason for segregation.
Again, I'm not disagreeing with you.

Making an additional point that is is one of the most segregated suburbs in the world, especially when considering how close in proximity "towns" are to eachother.
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Stony Brook
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I'd say it's more segregated than racist, to keep it simple.
Is that what they are "calling" it now????
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:44 PM
 
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If there wasn't racism, there wouldn't be any reason for segregation.
If the lowlife degenerates of other countries weren't offered a free ride by our government, there would probably be no racism.

Amistad....yet another "free ride" no one talks about.
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:52 PM
 
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Make up your mind dude, is it "a lot" or is it a "dying breed"? Beyond your own experience, how many folks do you know avoided those particular areas?

And if we were to assume what you say is true, couldn't you say groups who choose to avoid such areas are using a similar thought process to those who choose to live there (i.e. they'd rather live where they fit in?)
Ok S.I.B if you read before you spoke you would clearly notice (middle class) was the dying bread I spoke of. Please. Please. Please read. Long Island has great schools right. I would hope you went to one of them or maybe you just missed the side point, however if you think I miss spoke how do you explain these stats in this day and age. The one on the left is the West Islip school district and to the left is the state average.

White, not Hispanic 95% 51%
Hispanic or Latino 3% 21%
Asian/Pacific Islander 1% 8%
Black, not Hispanic 0% 19%
Native American or Native Alaskan 0% 0%
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Old 03-29-2013, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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How do you separate the two?

Why is there segregation in the first place?
People choose to live with people that are close to them in race, nationality, socio-economics, age, etc.

Hence why certain areas are predominantly dominated by 1 or more groups. Take Chinatown in NYC. Do people who live there choose Chinatown to avoid Harlem or Washington Heights, or more because THEY are also Asian and want to be closer to people that "understand" or relate to them? Why are certain north shore towns more dominated by Asians than say a south shore town like Massapequa or Freeport? Maybe because their social and family circles are in Flushing/Bayside/Glen Oaks and it is closer for them to see them than traveling from south shore towns. You see it on this board with threads like, "I am (insert race), will my family fit in if we buy a house in (insert town)?". People want to buy homes where neighbors share common backgrounds, interests and goals with them. Women in Hempstead will want to get their hair done by someone who knows how to tame Afro cuts in Hempstead over someone in Syosset or Garden City who may not have a clue.

It is all about choosing towns where you feel comfortable, and to that end, it means choosing towns where the majority of its residents look/act like you. Do I agree with it? No. I think diversity is a wonderful thing but the reality is that socio-economics largely dictate whether a particular neighborhood is "desirable" or not. On LI, the majority of wealthy/high income households tend to be dominated by "white" folks hence the visual disparity. Strangely enough, this isn't the case in other parts of the country (like say Alexandria VA or parts of Maryland which have extremely wealthy African American households in the suburbs that put wealthy towns here on LI to shame.) Why that is, I dont know. Time will tell.

I see this as a segregation issue, not a race issue. People are not born racist. Unfortunately, all it takes is a parent to impart that onto their kids, who internalize it at a young age and grow up with this mentality.

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Old 03-29-2013, 06:00 PM
 
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True....people are confusing racism with not wanting to love ina "diverse" community. When i lived in the city it was diverse. I had nothing in common with many neighbors and they had nothing in common with me. We all got along just fine but there was no " cultural" bond. Iprefer to be around those who share my race and religion.
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